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MineralMan

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67. No, I don't worry about any of that, frankly.

Sat Jan 29, 2022, 02:46 PM

Jan 2022

They're not going to "run out" of any of those things.

The Republicans will, of course, try to use the courts to stall. What is more important is indictments and arrests, frankly. Biden's DOJ has through 2024 to do the trials, etc. AG Garland won't be leaving any time before that, and the DOJ is Biden's through 2024.

If the timing is right, a bunch of GOP House member and some GOP Senators are going to lose their elections, assuming they don't resign before November. Look at the list of those who voted against certifying the electoral college vote. Every one of those Trumpers will be campaigned against, based on that. So, voters may not be in a good mood come November. So, it may well be that the House isn't in as much risk as some seem to think. We might even pick up a couple more Senate seats in 2022, as well.

So, no, I'm not all that worried.

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Fake Electors - Fake Election Propaganda - Mail Fraud Federal Felony [View all] MineralMan Jan 2022 OP

Especially in the states Joe Biden won... ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2022 #1

Yes, Absolutely. MineralMan Jan 2022 #6

I agree with you 100%. fightforfreedom Jan 2022 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Jan 2022 #2

The Ringleader aka the Slobfather malaise Jan 2022 #3

Yes, indeed. MineralMan Jan 2022 #90

Exactly, and if they can tie them to people in the Whitehouse, like Rudy, Meadows, Trumps lawyers. fightforfreedom Jan 2022 #4

Yes, exactly. MineralMan Jan 2022 #9

Were the fake electors the hub of the conspiracy? kentuck Jan 2022 #5

The picture has been clear for some time. MineralMan Jan 2022 #7

What is their alibi for the "alternate" ballots? kentuck Jan 2022 #12

There is no valid excuse for signing fraudulent documents. MineralMan Jan 2022 #13

Agreed. kentuck Jan 2022 #18

Yes. That they actually mailed the false documents MineralMan Jan 2022 #25

Mail Fraud has big teeth Claire Oh Nette Jan 2022 #85

Hey MM DENVERPOPS Jan 2022 #63

No, I don't worry about any of that, frankly. MineralMan Jan 2022 #67

I hope DENVERPOPS Jan 2022 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author DENVERPOPS Jan 2022 #64

I think you are mistaken dpibel Jan 2022 #72

You know what? I don't really care what you think MineralMan Jan 2022 #74

You are stating things as fact, not opinion dpibel Jan 2022 #79

See my signature line. MineralMan Jan 2022 #80

What is the sense of opinions about facts? dpibel Jan 2022 #83

.. MineralMan Jan 2022 #84

So how about onenote? dpibel Jan 2022 #93

They signed their names to documents that said they were the official electors. fightforfreedom Jan 2022 #27

They have only subpoenaed the two top electors from each of these states... kentuck Jan 2022 #30

That's entirely possible. MineralMan Jan 2022 #39

It does look that way drray23 Jan 2022 #44

Grassley is up to his eyeballs in this. Pence *knew* that he was going to be "taken out" erronis Jan 2022 #46

Come on DOJ, it's been over a year now. Emile Jan 2022 #8

Patience. None of this is news to the DOJ. MineralMan Jan 2022 #11

People have to understand Garland has to take his time and get things right. fightforfreedom Jan 2022 #17

Exactly. I understand the impatience, but MineralMan Jan 2022 #19

I know, but I think they could get a lot more information if Emile Jan 2022 #24

Perhaps so. Things are still unfolding. MineralMan Jan 2022 #26

Yep, I need to stock up on popcorn! Emile Jan 2022 #29

Indeed. Popcorn farts all around. MineralMan Jan 2022 #33

I'm right there with you. Firestorm49 Jan 2022 #14

I remember this too FelineOverlord Jan 2022 #15

Yes. There it is in video. MineralMan Jan 2022 #16

Self incrimination much? malaise Jan 2022 #20

As I recall, there was a bunch of cops in the building... kentuck Jan 2022 #23

So a month later they arrived at the Capitol in DC mountain grammy Jan 2022 #57

That guy speaking at the end is completely full of shit leftieNanner Jan 2022 #68

Strangely reminiscent of this photo from 2000 Lasher Jan 2022 #69

That immediately came to mind. joshcryer Jan 2022 #94

...K&R... spanone Jan 2022 #21

They are coming up with the excuse, gab13by13 Jan 2022 #22

Was Rudy the lawyer that told them it was legal? kentuck Jan 2022 #28

That's not going to work. MineralMan Jan 2022 #31

I'm just saying gab13by13 Jan 2022 #45

You should let the 11th Circuit know about this right away! dpibel Jan 2022 #52

Off to the Greatest! Mme. Defarge Jan 2022 #32

Lets see; Mail fraud, conspiracy to commit election fraud, attempting to interfere in a official fightforfreedom Jan 2022 #34

Seditious conspiracy? kentuck Jan 2022 #35

I believe that charge will be reserved for the leaders, who instigated MineralMan Jan 2022 #37

I heard Dan Goldman say they can be charged with seditious conspiracy. gab13by13 Jan 2022 #48

That should be enough, I think, at least for those MineralMan Jan 2022 #36

The more people indicted the better the chance someone will tell all. fightforfreedom Jan 2022 #38

Oh, with a 20 year possible mail fraud prison sentence, there MineralMan Jan 2022 #43

The mail fraud is the provable federal crime for every signee. halfulglas Jan 2022 #40

Yes. That charge is a no-brainer. MineralMan Jan 2022 #41

Did every person who signed the fake document gab13by13 Jan 2022 #49

What would be the point of signing it if it wouldn't be sent? MineralMan Jan 2022 #54

Indeed, as claimed electors... joshcryer Jan 2022 #96

That is a valid point. Intent has to be known and proven beyond reasonable doubt. Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2022 #56

Proving intent, how about this? fightforfreedom Jan 2022 #66

This is provable. joshcryer Jan 2022 #95

By the way, the penalty for Mail Fraud is 20 years in prison maximum. MineralMan Jan 2022 #42

K&R! SheltieLover Jan 2022 #47

Enjoying this post, MM - and especially your ongoing comments. erronis Jan 2022 #50

I have confidence that it will all play out. MineralMan Jan 2022 #55

In general, the American people have a long history of sleep walking through life, until fightforfreedom Jan 2022 #58

Yes. There is a lot of potential in the open hearings. MineralMan Jan 2022 #60

The timing may work out for the elections, but I hope and believe that that is not the purpose of erronis Jan 2022 #86

Of course. They did the crimes, and must be prosecuted for them. MineralMan Jan 2022 #88

It takes a thief to know a thief Puppyjive Jan 2022 #51

I hope action is taken. TxVietVet Jan 2022 #53

i think they may try to make the argument they were "hoodwinked" Takket Jan 2022 #59

Pretty much all of those fake "electors" are pretty savvy people. MineralMan Jan 2022 #61

All of the excuses I have heard from everyone involved in the coup are child like foolish. fightforfreedom Jan 2022 #62

+100 MineralMan Jan 2022 #75

I hope they are also speaking with the electors that refused DeeNice Jan 2022 #65

Sure. As outsiders, we have less information than the pros have. MineralMan Jan 2022 #71

This investigation is going to be the largest investigation in our history. fightforfreedom Jan 2022 #76

It's certainly looking that way to me, too. MineralMan Jan 2022 #77

Maximum Sentence for Federal Mail Fraud leftieNanner Jan 2022 #70

Yes, indeed. I mentioned that earlier, too. MineralMan Jan 2022 #73

You noticed what I did: Federal Mail Fraud. Keep it simple. nt Hekate Jan 2022 #81

Yup. There's no need to make it complicated. MineralMan Jan 2022 #82

They know who they are, why haven't they been arrested? spanone Jan 2022 #87

Federal crimes require grand jury indictments, unless they are caught in the act. MineralMan Jan 2022 #89

Thanks for the explanation. spanone Jan 2022 #91

Mail Fraud -- possible charge, but not a "no-brainer" onenote Jan 2022 #92

I think getting them to say they were "faithful electors"... joshcryer Jan 2022 #97