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Tree Lady

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42. I don't think its the site

Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:39 AM

Jan 2022

I think its after Trump came on the scene and no matter what he did he got away with it changed the atmosphere around here. My personal opinion is a lot of us are tired, frustrated and angry at what a good portion of America is turning into.

I think we had more hope when Obama first came in before republicans decided to block everything he did.

And those things were all before covid, add the last two years and its no wonder we aren't all hanging out having fun.

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Is DU a friendly place for leftists and communists? [View all] StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 OP

My opinion only DBoon Jan 2022 #1

Thank you for offering your opinion. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #3

as long as they dont support 3rd party candidates. mopinko Jan 2022 #2

If that's not against the rules, it should be. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #4

It is against the rules. nt Crunchy Frog Jan 2022 #8

Of course. One thing to keep in mind, IMO, millions of voters... brush Jan 2022 #5

I love Bernie. I just don't think he can get elected president. Not even sure he could do the job Walleye Jan 2022 #17

Shirley Chisholm was the first candidate I ever supported. Couldn't vote for her though, Crunchy Frog Jan 2022 #27

1972 was the first election I was old enough, had to be 21 then.Good for you supporting Chisholm Walleye Jan 2022 #29

Huh? In 1971 18 yr olds were allowed to vote. I was proudly in the first wave! electric_blue68 Jan 2022 #56

I think that's pretty cool StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #79

"...whose first vote for president was the Gus Hall/Angela Davis" brooklynite Jan 2022 #116

It was a vote in solidarity with Angela Davis/the Black Power/George and Jonathan Jackson movement. brush Jan 2022 #122

Democratic Socialist is a trigger madville Jan 2022 #6

Yeah, it seems like a place that is friendlier to moderates. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #12

+1 NJCher Jan 2022 #14

Looking at what's happening I'm not sure what the wave of the future is. Walleye Jan 2022 #18

I think there is data arguing for your position and for the opposite. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #19

Not a doubt in my mind,Progress always wins. Walleye Jan 2022 #23

Yeah, you said it. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #24

How many of the youth are expressing their progressivism... brooklynite Jan 2022 #120

ooo you're so ironic, brooklynite StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #126

Turn and face the strange... progressoid Jan 2022 #141

Nice, But RobinA Jan 2022 #167

And? progressoid Jan 2022 #170

That's some big Turning Point USA energy Rob H. Jan 2022 #146

Well, they're obviously wrong then. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2022 #163

The wave of the future is rising sea level. lagomorph777 Jan 2022 #164

Very sad, but very true. Young people are gonna have to step up, I'm feeling very old Walleye Jan 2022 #165

waste of time elleng Jan 2022 #31

Thanks. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #33

I don't think its the site Tree Lady Jan 2022 #42

+1. Add exhausted to the point of numbness to that. Furthermore, add old enough to know... Hekate Jan 2022 #52

Those are good points. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #55

How do you figure that? iemanja Jan 2022 #36

I honestly have no idea what you are trying to say here. n/t StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #37

You say socialism is the wave of the future iemanja Jan 2022 #38

Demographic data StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #40

I see zero evidence of that happening iemanja Jan 2022 #41

Seems pessimistic to me. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #62

Calling liberals "moderates" is less accurate and meaningful than calling ice cream chocolate. Hortensis Jan 2022 #84

Thank you. Calling Democrats establishment/moderates/centrists/neoliberals/corporate Dems betsuni Jan 2022 #85

Yup. Labels that deny who and what we are serve all hostiles Hortensis Jan 2022 #88

Well said. I too hate that "moderate" tag/smear as most here... brush Jan 2022 #103

Yes, though a liberal who isn't also progressive has to be a pretty odd bird. Hortensis Jan 2022 #105

We seem to be bouncing among terms... brooklynite Jan 2022 #147

You Were Doing Fine RobinA Jan 2022 #168

What's the Socialist position on the CA looters? Polybius Jan 2022 #90

You mean the organized robberies? MrsCoffee Jan 2022 #157

Whatever it's called Polybius Jan 2022 #173

"that socialism is the wave of the future" EX500rider Jan 2022 #95

I wish that were true, but I don't see it happening at the moment. With our system of Demsrule86 Jan 2022 #100

We're mostly left of center to progressives here, not moderates. brush Jan 2022 #102

That's like saying "monorails are the transportation of the future...and they have been for decades" brooklynite Jan 2022 #117

Are you saying that monorails aren't great methods of transportation? StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #150

"It's not my job to educate you on monorails. Watch the Simpsons. Listen to James Brown." betsuni Jan 2022 #151

No, they're not... brooklynite Jan 2022 #156

Mostly Kind Of RobinA Jan 2022 #166

You clearly don't read enough cyberpunk ismnotwasm Jan 2022 #171

Democrat socialist triggers me because it is a false label, wilfully and erroneously chosen by a Celerity Jan 2022 #20

This is great info. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #34

The very well run (politically) countries on the earth make up a very short list for me Celerity Jan 2022 #48

This is all interesting information I agree with. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #63

Belgium also has a big problem with government corruption. DFW Jan 2022 #132

Germany is easily the best run of the bigger nations (40 million and up) Japan 2nd, but also massive Celerity Jan 2022 #138

If we were to move anywhere, it would be to a neighboring country DFW Jan 2022 #161

When I grew up in the early '60's... electric_blue68 Jan 2022 #64

I agree with all of this. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #66

Who is "the establishment" and how are they telling us "we have to wait"? betsuni Jan 2022 #67

Wait a minute, wait a minute. Aren't you the one advocating for... brush Jan 2022 #104

In post 53 he says, "I'm a communist... an anarcho-communist." When someone tells you who they are... Hekate Jan 2022 #110

Communist, anarcho-communist, or a socialism-is-the-wave-of-the-future... brush Jan 2022 #112

Made me think of the anarcho-syndicalist commune scene in "Monty Python and the Holy Grail." betsuni Jan 2022 #114

Honestly, I think of myself as a practical progressive/communist. StrictlyRockers Feb 2022 #177

"We could easily end poverty in this country if we muster the political will to actually betsuni Feb 2022 #178

Thank you! iemanja Jan 2022 #45

Eisenhower was more of an ur-type dirigist (to a point), within an American framework of constraints Celerity Jan 2022 #49

I love learning new words. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #70

Dirigisme or dirigism (from French diriger 'to direct') is an economic doctrine in which the state Celerity Jan 2022 #75

Thank you for educating me. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #76

lol Eisenhower wasn't a socialist StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #65

So, in other words... regnaD kciN Jan 2022 #26

This is a Democratic site iemanja Jan 2022 #46

The question is whether you welcome leftists who campaign for Democrats. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #71

As far as I'm concerned iemanja Jan 2022 #73

Ok, good. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #78

That said, advocating for socialists or communists to run as Democrats isn't likely to go over well brooklynite Jan 2022 #155

Huh? Fla_Democrat Jan 2022 #7

Huh, what? StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #11

A lot Fla_Democrat Jan 2022 #32

Ok, then I shall rub my eyes a lot and smoke a lot before coming here. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #74

It certainly couldn't hurt Fla_Democrat Jan 2022 #101

I am FDR hard left. roamer65 Jan 2022 #9

That is encouraging. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #10

Dad was born in 1913 in multigraincracker Jan 2022 #13

George Wallace was one as an multigraincracker Jan 2022 #15

Fascinating StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #21

In 1968 George Wallace was multigraincracker Jan 2022 #25

Wow, that is so interesting. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #28

Yes, George Wallace was a racist all right! ShazzieB Jan 2022 #153

You mean the dixiecrats, right? Those who moved to the republican... brush Jan 2022 #106

I think dad grew. He became a modern Dem. multigraincracker Jan 2022 #124

minus the systemic (Japanese internment camps, AA exclusion from the New Deal, etc) racism I'm sure Celerity Jan 2022 #30

Can one argue that FDR did a great job considering the mores and political climate of the time? StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #77

oh, yes, of course, on balance he was the best POTUS since Lincoln, I just always have to include Celerity Jan 2022 #81

I like you. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #82

no, I just pay attention & remember things, plus I had an extremely conducive to learning upbringing Celerity Jan 2022 #83

FDR was a capitalist, liberal Democrat. His policies weren't socialist, thought socialism dangerous. betsuni Jan 2022 #35

There was a very active communist party iemanja Jan 2022 #47

You have been a member here for almost 16 years..... A HERETIC I AM Jan 2022 #16

This is the post I was looking for. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #22

Were you here during the last primary? Tree Lady Jan 2022 #44

If it were possible for me to drift further left, I would. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #53

If you review the TOS, you will see the board is set up to support Dems & get Dems elected... Hekate Jan 2022 #57

Thank you for helping me. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #58

You're welcome. If you sincerely want something to read, I suggest Alexander Solzhenitsyn... Hekate Jan 2022 #61

Recommended memoirs I read recently: "Mastering the Art of Soviet Cooking" by Anya von Bremzen betsuni Jan 2022 #91

Overly invested in outcomes? Demsrule86 Jan 2022 #140

This is exactly the kind of post I am referring to. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #144

Groupthink Is As Prevalent RobinA Jan 2022 #169

I'm pretty far left mvd Jan 2022 #39

Yeah, DU can be pretty great at times. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #60

What does that mean ? Why would anyone want to be a communist considering the horrible record JI7 Jan 2022 #43

It really does sound nuts. Communism has not worked out well In Actual Real Life. Millions died... Hekate Jan 2022 #59

People have changed, not this site. herding cats Jan 2022 #50

This is a progressive country. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #69

No it really isn't. Just look at voting patterns. Progressives mostly win in Deep blue states and Demsrule86 Jan 2022 #142

I'm just talking about polling data. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #143

We have an extremely weak majority. herding cats Feb 2022 #174

This is all true. StrictlyRockers Feb 2022 #175

I''ve been on Twitter. Since 2012 herding cats Feb 2022 #185

+1 betsuni Feb 2022 #186

Yes, as long as you know and accept when to tread lightly. jcmaine72 Jan 2022 #51

This is the best advice in this thread, so far. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #72

as an aside--i googled: difference between liberal and progressive orleans Jan 2022 #54

The Democratic Party trends pretty liberal. Tomconroy Jan 2022 #68

I'm calling BS Skittles Jan 2022 #80

Dammit, Skittles, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2022 #86

*snort* Skittles Jan 2022 #87

Well-spotted, Skittles Hekate Jan 2022 #98

not funny! I find that term extremely offensive. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #118

:) Skittles Jan 2022 #130

lol StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #131

WOOT! Skittles Jan 2022 #133

Classical communism, socialism and capitalism are all pretty much obsolete Klaralven Jan 2022 #89

Re-defining anything in words doesn't make anything a reality. brush Jan 2022 #109

I've been on DU since 2001. So yeah it's okay. JanMichael Jan 2022 #92

For those who think the "establishment" Democratic Party needs to be "overhauled" betsuni Jan 2022 #93

+1 Hekate Jan 2022 #99

Is this the "friend" you are asking for?? retread Jan 2022 #94

My friend is not a phooka. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #125

Of course, as long as they're Democrats. I'm to the left of Bernie and have been here eleven years. ancianita Jan 2022 #96

Good info. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #123

short answer - no KG Jan 2022 #97

Why not? StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #119

Uh, not to butt in, but look at KG's post count. ancianita Jan 2022 #128

Lurking for 17 years isn't long enough. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #129

Guess not, given your op question. Thanks for the info; duly noted. ancianita Jan 2022 #134

The question is only meant to spark debate on the subject. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #137

Cool. ancianita Jan 2022 #160

Yes, yes. StrictlyRockers Feb 2022 #179

I have no use for communism and socialism. I don't consider AOC, Bernie, etc. socialists. Patterson Jan 2022 #107

It should be UnderThisLaw Jan 2022 #108

DU works to support Dems, elect Dems, keep Dems in office. DU doesn't permit 3rd party campaigns Hekate Jan 2022 #113

I don't follow any "-ists" or "-isms" Generic Brad Jan 2022 #111

Does "friendly" mean "nobody challenging their opinions"? brooklynite Jan 2022 #115

No StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #121

I support Skittles but I wouldn't vote for them 48656c6c6f20 Jan 2022 #127

I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE Skittles Jan 2022 #152

Communism 👎 nt Raine Jan 2022 #135

I don't know, but it's a place that's more in line with how I think GoodRaisin Jan 2022 #136

Communists are good at identifying problems, terrible at coming up with solutions. Tommy Carcetti Jan 2022 #139

I'm not a purist. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #145

I'm a Left Wing Social Justice Warrior and Radical Environmentalist. hunter Jan 2022 #148

I could not agree more. StrictlyRockers Jan 2022 #149

Susan Sarandon has shown no signs of wanting to be an ally, at least a good one Silent3 Jan 2022 #158

I guess the EffieBlack/Starfishsaver has jaded me Piasladic Jan 2022 #154

Can you provide me with context? StrictlyRockers Feb 2022 #180

If they're here to be good allies, and follow the rules, the more the merrier Silent3 Jan 2022 #159

Fair enough StrictlyRockers Feb 2022 #181

Plenty on the left support the Democratic Party DFW Jan 2022 #162

Franco was a fascist. StrictlyRockers Feb 2022 #182

His point was that either extreme can lead to despotism dwayneb Feb 2022 #188

You got it. DFW Feb 2022 #189

I don't support communists. The same goes for right-wing fascists rockfordfile Jan 2022 #172

If you read the communist party of the usa platform. . .you may not find much to disagree about AZLD4Candidate Feb 2022 #176

That's a good suggestion. StrictlyRockers Feb 2022 #183

"If there was some kind of party that existed to help the poor": that's why Republicans hate betsuni Feb 2022 #184

actual communism? No, it is not compatible with American concepts of private property Amishman Feb 2022 #187