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Capt.Rocky300

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33. No they weren't....

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 11:54 AM

Oct 2012

The crew screwed up. This was a crew who had a history of poor proficiency and sub-par performance on checkrides. It was a demanding non-precision approach in icing conditions and they not only allowed the aircraft to get below stall speed, they were not aligned with approach course. They should have executed a missed approach and either made another attempt or diverted to their alternate. They tried to salvage a bad situation and used poor judgement in so doing. This was an avoidable accident and it happens more often than most people are aware of. Even with so-called "pros" at the controls.

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k&r... spanone Oct 2012 #1

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