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Jedi Guy

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92. That was exactly it.
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 08:08 PM
Feb 2022

Democrats came out strongly in support of the MeToo movement (which I'm not saying was a mistake), so when the accusations were leveled against Franken, the Party was in a bind. Either defend Franken and risk the cries of hypocrisy from the right, or pressure Franken to step down to maintain a consistent stance on the movement from the public's perspective.

The frustrating thing is that clarification and nuance could have easily solved the problem, particularly since the right is going to scream and shout no matter what we do. It would have been worth the effort to at least try to defend Franken rather than rushing him into resigning in the interest of "optics."

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Do you think he abused those women? Casady1 Feb 2022 #1
no, but what I think wouldn't obviate the reasons he gave for leaving bigtree Feb 2022 #7
Franken was railroaded by someone or some group DiamondShark Feb 2022 #95
Umhm. More than one thing can be true. Our leaders called immediately Hortensis Feb 2022 #103
I still think your title is misleading, Al Franken is not the one trying to rewrite DiamondShark Feb 2022 #109
:) Bigtree's title. Fwiw, there's no way any of us can know whether Hortensis Feb 2022 #112
Franken is a strong enough voice that any "distractions" would still ColinC Feb 2022 #2
His vote in the senate, covered by the current senator, would Hortensis Feb 2022 #61
Personally I wish he would run again. I was very disappointed when he resigned... George II Feb 2022 #73
Well I would love to see him beat her milestogo Feb 2022 #86
The "charges" against him were, to be kind, a CROCK. nt Atticus Feb 2022 #3
Greatly overblown at best; a RW plot. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #35
i agree. he should not have resigned. Trueblue1968 Feb 2022 #58
Exactly. sarcasmo Feb 2022 #107
I blame certain Democrats for rushing Franken into resigning. MontanaMama Feb 2022 #4
ITA. Dems were worried they would lose the "high ground" spooky3 Feb 2022 #12
Even though there was a HUGE difference Mad_Machine76 Feb 2022 #36
That was exactly it. Jedi Guy Feb 2022 #92
so he didn't believe what he said in resigning? bigtree Feb 2022 #13
From your OP, this is what he said: George II Feb 2022 #90
+ a brazillion milestogo Feb 2022 #39
👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 onecaliberal Feb 2022 #45
I agree and believe Franken is correct. Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #51
I miss Al and would have backed him in his fight to prove his innocence. And those that denied dem4decades Feb 2022 #5
I don't know? pwb Feb 2022 #6
It was small potatoes then, to anybody who cared to look at the details. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #46
Even more so because he didn't do anything in the first place Generic Brad Feb 2022 #97
IMO he was railroaded right out the door. tavernier Feb 2022 #8
Same here. BlackSkimmer Feb 2022 #24
Agreed Deuxcents Feb 2022 #37
We could use him. BlackSkimmer Feb 2022 #79
"Rewrite history?" ummmm no. SoonerPride Feb 2022 #9
Senator Franken got swept up in the overheated early days BlueIdaho Feb 2022 #16
Tarana Burke started the #metoo movement in 2006 Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2022 #42
Let me rephrase that.. BlueIdaho Feb 2022 #53
And it still happens...Cuomo should not have resigned...New York is not as liberal as some think Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #54
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2022 #66
Cuomo should not have have resigned, why? brooklynite Feb 2022 #71
Agreed. Caliman73 Feb 2022 #84
This. CentralMass Feb 2022 #21
+1 n/t demmiblue Feb 2022 #26
Yes and no. maxsolomon Feb 2022 #10
Your argument that he is trying to rewrite history is that "he resigned?" vanlassie Feb 2022 #11
no, that he just blamed the Democrats who agreed with his reasons for resigning bigtree Feb 2022 #15
Democrats played right along with the Republican plot. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #47
I blame certain Democrats too...and while once I might have supported them in a presidential run, Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #55
He is not re-writing history, he is stating what happened. HE WASN'T given due process, and the JohnSJ Feb 2022 #14
no, he specifically blamed the 36 Democrats, as well bigtree Feb 2022 #18
and so do I. That reasoning for resigning was because of the railroading they did to him. He JohnSJ Feb 2022 #40
there was no 'mob' of Democrats 'bullying' him bigtree Feb 2022 #49
Yes there was and it happened with Katie Hill to and we lost that seat...almost happened in VA. too. Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #56
sexual harrassment charges can't be generalized like that bigtree Feb 2022 #59
Who was the judge and jury for Franken? sheshe2 Feb 2022 #72
Right. Katie Hill admitted guilt in her ethical violations. Hortensis Feb 2022 #106
Interesting. For an OP who is concerned about a "Franken" candidacy as a distraction, which I don't JohnSJ Feb 2022 #62
so you think this discussion post on DU is holding sway in Franken's political future bigtree Feb 2022 #93
I don't think they deserve his claptrap either. But I do think they've earned it. Torchlight Feb 2022 #52
You Keep Saying That ProfessorGAC Feb 2022 #65
Franken's in denial about the blizzard of negative coverage at the time bigtree Feb 2022 #88
Here's a transcript of an interview with someone who wrote about it. nolabear Feb 2022 #17
Franken's primary accuser was not only working hand in glove with Sean Hannity Vogon_Glory Feb 2022 #19
THIS! FakeNoose Feb 2022 #33
Thanks for the reply Vogon_Glory Feb 2022 #38
***THREAD WINNER !!!*** uponit7771 Feb 2022 #67
We couldn't afford to lose a senator of his caliber then, Crunchy Frog Feb 2022 #20
evidently we could afford it bigtree Feb 2022 #25
I feel bad for Franken... BlueCheeseAgain Feb 2022 #22
All those accusations were lame. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #32
It was good having him in the Senate... VarryOn Feb 2022 #23
Exactly JohnSJ Feb 2022 #41
Deleted duplicate. Hortensis Feb 2022 #63
With a 50-50 senate tie, we let the nation's future -- democracy Hortensis Feb 2022 #64
Should he run against Klobuchar or Smith? brooklynite Feb 2022 #69
Great question. That's the problem... VarryOn Feb 2022 #76
Franken was rooked - acknowledge it. tenderfoot Feb 2022 #27
okay bigtree Feb 2022 #29
BS. He got railroaded in an excess of zealotry fueled by a RW plot. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #28
He was forced to resign by members of his own party! No one Emile Feb 2022 #30
Why is he taking this approach? WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2022 #31
I'm glad he's speaking up. The reaction of those 36 senators... LAS14 Feb 2022 #34
so he should speak up, but those Senators bigtree Feb 2022 #44
Everything is always used against the party. SalviaBlue Feb 2022 #50
they were basing their actions on the cacophany of accusations bigtree Feb 2022 #57
I would trade all 36 of them away, even Bernie, for franken questionseverything Feb 2022 #43
Scary comment... brooklynite Feb 2022 #68
Since the thirty six couldn't stand up for a fellow democratic senator questionseverything Feb 2022 #85
How many have you supported Primaries against? brooklynite Feb 2022 #87
+1 Celerity Feb 2022 #104
How did what should be hostility against a RW operation Hortensis Feb 2022 #102
I don't think he is trying to rewrite history. SalviaBlue Feb 2022 #48
No, he's not. MineralMan Feb 2022 #60
He's just trying to tell the truth. roamer65 Feb 2022 #70
It was a mistake to let the Republicans bait the Democratic party into forcing Al Franken to resign UCmeNdc Feb 2022 #74
Two likes should tell you something!!! Nt USALiberal Feb 2022 #75
lol bigtree Feb 2022 #83
I believe Al Franken, & always have.I believe we lost a good Senator & this was a low point for Dems Hekate Feb 2022 #77
You are wrong edhopper Feb 2022 #78
he's defaming 36 bigtree Feb 2022 #82
He's not on a forum edhopper Feb 2022 #89
he's a former legislator, and I haven't said anything untruthful or demeaning about him bigtree Feb 2022 #91
Franken is stating facts kcr Feb 2022 #80
Telling the truth is not "rewriting history" eissa Feb 2022 #81
Weren't you always a very vocal proponent radicalleft Feb 2022 #94
nope. I thought the media had taken down one of our best fighters bigtree Feb 2022 #96
Thanks for the reasoned response... radicalleft Feb 2022 #99
They're to blame. Fake scandal. Tweeden lied, woman whining that Al touched her waist fat absurd. betsuni Feb 2022 #98
rewrite history? PLEASE He is describing EXACTLY what happened krawhitham Feb 2022 #100
Nah dude. He was bullied out without due process Arazi Feb 2022 #101
I agree with Franken. yardwork Feb 2022 #105
This didn't go well for you. nt USALiberal Feb 2022 #108
... betsuni Feb 2022 #110
Bazinga! George II Feb 2022 #111
what do you think I was trying to get out of it? bigtree Feb 2022 #113
Men always seek to evade culpability for sexual assault, and seek redemption Tarc Feb 2022 #114
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