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Ford_Prefect

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59. I think we should pay attention to the possibility of Turkey becoming involved.

Reply to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sun Feb 13, 2022, 10:19 PM

Feb 2022

Russians like Ivashov don't bluff, it's not their thing at all.

The risk Ivashov takes here is not that he'll be disappeared but that Putin will indeed do the wrong thing. I doubt this is aimed at Putin but rather at Vlad's patrons who wield the real powers in Russia. The one thing they want is an un-complicated market for Russian oil & gas.

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A retired Russian general's criticism may signal a larger problem for Putin [View all] left-of-center2012 Feb 2022 OP

K&R n/t Alice Kramden Feb 2022 #1

This is quite amazing. Not likely putin will be pleased. BSdetect Feb 2022 #2

One hopes that the General Sherman A1 Feb 2022 #6

For Most Dictators modrepub Feb 2022 #9

In the back of my mind I have a feeling that Putin just wants to know how far he can push this Firestorm49 Feb 2022 #27

Nailed it. orangecrush Feb 2022 #56

And that he stays away from windows. COL Mustard Feb 2022 #15

Samovars with Polonium-210 are a known thing in Russia. On Putins' orders in 2006 irisblue Feb 2022 #17

Yep, but I'm sure the general knows the risks. paleotn Feb 2022 #16

Zukov was the character played by Jason Isaaks in The Death of Stalin robbedvoter Feb 2022 #3

+1 BootinUp Feb 2022 #44

Great movie, and somewhat accurate, MarineCombatEngineer Feb 2022 #45

Hey MCE DENVERPOPS Feb 2022 #47

Doing real good, both of my trucks are making money, MarineCombatEngineer Feb 2022 #48

Thx MCE DENVERPOPS Feb 2022 #61

I think Putin's Russia want to be a member of Nato . . . Lovie777 Feb 2022 #4

Seriously ? left-of-center2012 Feb 2022 #5

Putin wants to thieve and enrich himself and his buddies. Not much more. paleotn Feb 2022 #18

I dunno. Shrub managed it alright quakerboy Feb 2022 #69

Hey Leonid, 3Hotdogs Feb 2022 #7

And beware of guys with umbrellas. dchill Feb 2022 #11

And stay away from windows & stairs SheltieLover Feb 2022 #13

Definitely. dchill Feb 2022 #22

...and women 50+ years your junior who suddenly appear with bedroom eyes? Brainfodder Feb 2022 #53

.... orangecrush Feb 2022 #57

yeah bdamomma Feb 2022 #54

Just as we must be supporting Ukrainian independence randr Feb 2022 #8

X 1000 BlueIdaho Feb 2022 #51

After putins ass is gone I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2022 #70

Very interesting. Putin can not be happy about his speaking out. FM123 Feb 2022 #10

I would like to think he has anticipated that possibility and may know something we don't. smirkymonkey Feb 2022 #50

One reason so many expat Russian rich have moved to Florida is the home like feeling Ford_Prefect Feb 2022 #58

Thank you for the link dmr Feb 2022 #67

Thanks for the link! FM123 Feb 2022 #68

This may give Putin food for thought... a whole 'nother ball game now. secondwind Feb 2022 #12

So glad he spoke out! SheltieLover Feb 2022 #14

this is what Putin will reap from attacking Ukraine bigtree Feb 2022 #19

So the Russian people are really suffering under Kim Jong.... Farmer-Rick Feb 2022 #20

Not a very good analysis for an economist who knows about Russia's oil and gas dependence. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #21

Not sure I buy that the Generals statement ratchets BootinUp Feb 2022 #49

There's "a liberal Russian media outlet" ??? Putin must be slipping. eppur_se_muova Feb 2022 #23

Had me wondering, too. wnylib Feb 2022 #42

How long before he falls out of a window or is poisoned? Rise up remove Putin. Historic NY Feb 2022 #24

NEXT: Retired Russian general killed in test flight dalton99a Feb 2022 #25

Yup or a plutonium leak in his building nvme Feb 2022 #41

Dude, do NOT go near any windows higher than ground level. n/t TygrBright Feb 2022 #26

Tea time. n/t Harker Feb 2022 #28

I can't read tea leafs, but multigraincracker Feb 2022 #29

I saw that article. usonian Feb 2022 #30

Welcome to DU, usonian! calimary Feb 2022 #37

This is huge. WinstonSmith4740 Feb 2022 #31

The Irish fishermen! calimary Feb 2022 #38

Wow! Martin Eden Feb 2022 #32

K and R oasis Feb 2022 #33

Wow. Amazing. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #34

At 78 years old the general seems to have run out of fucks. Marcuse Feb 2022 #35

I can see why Putin needs to ally with China... AntiFascist Feb 2022 #36

China would love to have Siberia. roamer65 Feb 2022 #62

He will likely pass away within the next 2 mos. nvme Feb 2022 #39

Watch your underwear, General. moondust Feb 2022 #40

This man needs a security force. nt BootinUp Feb 2022 #43

I hope he lives on the first floor. Loki Feb 2022 #46

Putin's plotting will be his undoing. czarjak Feb 2022 #52

It seems Putin has more problems at home than he may have realized. Joinfortmill Feb 2022 #55

but bdamomma Feb 2022 #60

I think we should pay attention to the possibility of Turkey becoming involved. Ford_Prefect Feb 2022 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author roamer65 Feb 2022 #63

Smells to me like a signal from the military that a coup d'etat is a possibility. roamer65 Feb 2022 #64

This is interesting. Wow. Hmm..... RockRaven Feb 2022 #65

"divert attention moondust Feb 2022 #66

He better think twice about his next cup of tea. themaguffin Feb 2022 #71