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78. It was more than a fall

Thu Feb 17, 2022, 11:46 PM

Feb 2022

Someone can fall and still win. That was the case for the Russian male skater who won the free skate in the team competition. But Valiyeva didn't execute nearly any of her jumps well. As a result, she bled points. She still got 4th, which isn't bad, except if you're Russian. And she was expected to win gold because of her remarkable talent.

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Horrifying. I saw that poor Russian skater literally fall apart on the ice! [View all] CTyankee Feb 2022 OP

What is the skater's name? FarPoint Feb 2022 #1

Sorry, I just tried to get it again and couldn't! I'm a little verklempt right now. Maybe Facebook? CTyankee Feb 2022 #9

I went to Youtube.... FarPoint Feb 2022 #16

Who? Thtwudbeme Feb 2022 #2

Russian figure skater falls to shock 4th in women's final after Winter Olympics doping saga Celerity Feb 2022 #8

Here is the DU post about it in Breaking News... BigmanPigman Feb 2022 #28

Is this the kid in doping scandal Duncanpup Feb 2022 #3

Yes niyad Feb 2022 #40

Please expand or explain superpatriotman Feb 2022 #4

Celerity just posted it above. CTyankee Feb 2022 #12

Are you talking about the one who was on dope? Emile Feb 2022 #5

Yes, I think she was. CTyankee Feb 2022 #19

It wasn't quite "she was on dope.' That is a gross mis-representation. HUAJIAO Feb 2022 #46

If it was just a fall, that's only a one point deficit. Falls look dramatic, LAS14 Feb 2022 #6

I know. But it kept on happening and I realize they have to skate to the end but it was upsetting CTyankee Feb 2022 #13

It was more than a fall iemanja Feb 2022 #78

There should be an age limit of at least 18 for entry into the Olympics. Crunchy Frog Feb 2022 #7

You're right Crunchy! There should be no minors at the Olympics. Maru Kitteh Feb 2022 #29

The Russians will simply give her a back-dated birth certificate. JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2022 #31

Same for China and other oppressive countries Amishman Feb 2022 #99

I could barely watch. She looked like she was skating under duress. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #10

It makes me wonder iemanja Feb 2022 #72

There is little doubt about that. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #96

It makes me mad that Russia is there at all, when they are clearly still allowing doping to happen. onecaliberal Feb 2022 #11

Also, the music (Bolero) can be upsetting. It goes on and on and on, then the climax and then CTyankee Feb 2022 #17

Remember THIS? elleng Feb 2022 #32

Thank you for this. Was probably the last olympics I ever watched. niyad Feb 2022 #41

One of the most elegant and impeccably interpreted programs I ever saw. Tadpole Raisin Feb 2022 #44

I remember watching that live, and thought it Ilsa Feb 2022 #76

Thanks so much for posting this! ShazzieB Feb 2022 #50

I didn't watch any of it. onecaliberal Feb 2022 #57

But you decided you needed to post???? Nt USALiberal Feb 2022 #98

It seemed suited to her falling apart. nt iemanja Feb 2022 #70

I'm worried for her too. Imagine the toll this must take on a mere KPN Feb 2022 #43

I'm so sorry. I saw something to that effect earlier in the day in a post here. Valieva's career ... Hekate Feb 2022 #14

Maybe, but I hope not. Tom Rinaldo Feb 2022 #33

Her coach should be banned forever. Ocelot II Feb 2022 #15

This. It's abuse and a crime. nt crickets Feb 2022 #21

+1000 smirkymonkey Feb 2022 #25

Thank you for your sensitivity to her and your accuracy in your statement. HUAJIAO Feb 2022 #54

You're welcome. smirkymonkey Feb 2022 #100

This is the thing. Sogo Feb 2022 #58

As soon as Valiyeva got off the ice iemanja Feb 2022 #71

She shouldn't have been skating in this event after she failed the earlier drug test Poiuyt Feb 2022 #18

All of her limbs and digits remained attached Effete Snob Feb 2022 #20

But psychologically she was falling apart before our eyes. Yes, skaters take falls all the time but CTyankee Feb 2022 #24

Oh, okay! So she is still a lovely little figurative skater and I don't Hortensis Feb 2022 #30

When I saw the subject line, I went to pieces Effete Snob Feb 2022 #36

:) And I broke up in horror but got myself together again. Hortensis Feb 2022 #45

Possible she fell (or was told to fall) on purpose to avoid the controversy ? MichMan Feb 2022 #22

Her evil, witchy coach berated her afterwards, so probably not. Ocelot II Feb 2022 #27

Oh please stop. That's ridiculous and extremely unfair to her. She was under terrible media pressure HUAJIAO Feb 2022 #51

What would have been unfair would be cheating the others out of a podium had she won a medal MichMan Feb 2022 #64

So WTF would you think someone could skate well knowing that if she won, LisaL Feb 2022 #73

Just pointing out the unfairness of no one getting to enjoy podium even if she had won the bronze MichMan Feb 2022 #84

I don't think so iemanja Feb 2022 #69

I finally saw the footage and agree. On purpose. betsuni Feb 2022 #97

Maybe there should be an age minimum in order to compete at the Olympics. LonePirate Feb 2022 #23

China14 y/o diver had 3 perfect 10's diving platform in Tokyo Olympics, Tara Lipinski won gold at 15 Shanti Shanti Shanti Feb 2022 #34

People are neither physically, emotionally, or mentally fully developed in their niyad Feb 2022 #42

That's not the issue. It's the physical and psychological toll, Crunchy Frog Feb 2022 #80

lol, they are Olympic athletes, it's their lives, you can't stop them, even the young are ferocious Shanti Shanti Shanti Feb 2022 #85

Whatever. Crunchy Frog Feb 2022 #86

Video with no narration: superpatriotman Feb 2022 #26

I would think that after the controversy, the allegations, the hub bub, she was.... Thomas Hurt Feb 2022 #35

And all of these girls, even the 3 who won medals zuul Feb 2022 #37

I totally agree with your points. Sogo Feb 2022 #59

Link to Video?? USALiberal Feb 2022 #38

here Celerity Feb 2022 #52

Responsibility for what happened falls on Olympic committee for Hassler Feb 2022 #39

The coach is an abusive exploiter of all the young girls on the team. Fiendish Thingy Feb 2022 #47

Horrible Meowmee Feb 2022 #53

I found it on youtube Meowmee Feb 2022 #48

That was it and she missed most of the jumps, HUAJIAO Feb 2022 #56

I watched all of it and only saw her fall once though... will watch this Meowmee Feb 2022 #60

Perhaps true but she stumbled badly several times and had real trouble landing the jumps. HUAJIAO Feb 2022 #62

Yes she is great Meowmee Feb 2022 #63

Two total falls ... Straw Man Feb 2022 #88

Yes we saw the actual whole performance and noticed that Meowmee Feb 2022 #91

Someone posted it in Music Appreciation. mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2022 #102

Thanks 😀 Meowmee Feb 2022 #106

Lol, who, the dopehead? Tarc Feb 2022 #49

She is not a dope head. HUAJIAO Feb 2022 #55

Agree Meowmee Feb 2022 #61

She tested positive for a banned substance iemanja Feb 2022 #79

That was incredibly unkind, unfair, and not one bit funny. ShazzieB Feb 2022 #74

The Olympics isn't a place for participation trophies... brooklynite Feb 2022 #75

There is your normal Olympic stress, and there is the stress this girl must have been under. LisaL Feb 2022 #77

Cope Tarc Feb 2022 #104

I agree rockfordfile Feb 2022 #93

Would that Karma would catch up mnhtnbb Feb 2022 #65

Former Olympian Katarina Witt on this debacle Takket Feb 2022 #66

This message was self-deleted by its author iemanja Feb 2022 #67

She got caught drugging up. The other skaters didn't do that. rockfordfile Feb 2022 #94

And the Gold medal winner being completely ignored iemanja Feb 2022 #68

She'd just won an Olympic gold medal and she was alone clutching a stuffed toy. herding cats Feb 2022 #81

Both of her teammates were having meltdowns, even if for different reasons. LisaL Feb 2022 #82

I believe I mentioned the drama from both her teammates as well? herding cats Feb 2022 #83

I agree with your assessment iemanja Feb 2022 #87

She performed that same routine perfectly for the team competition milestogo Feb 2022 #89

Yes defecting would be a good idea Meowmee Feb 2022 #92

She shouldn't have been in the Olympics after testing for that drug. You shouldn't be rewarded rockfordfile Feb 2022 #95

Agreed. milestogo Feb 2022 #105

No, she made an error in the team skate as well, but nothing like the collapse in the individual Celerity Feb 2022 #107

I am not in favor of crushing little children. EndlessWire Feb 2022 #90

I watched it too, and it was so sad. I felt so bad for her. mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2022 #101

True, it was too much pressure in a no win situation Hav Feb 2022 #103