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riderinthestorm

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44. That's what happened to my sister. Got divorced, moved into a condo, and the dog barked all the time

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 10:43 AM

Oct 2012

because she was sensitive to the movements of the people and animals in the other condos and around the place.

She was always high strung, very energetic, and at her suburban house she had a huge fenced yard with two teenage boys to romp with her daily. The boys elected to stay with their dad who would NOT take the dog. So my sister was left with a large, nervous shepherd cross who barked ALL the time.

The condo association gave her an ultimatum - debark her or get her out. She had a month to take action.

She tried intensive training. She hired dog walkers to get the dog out more. She begged her ex to take the dog (she lives in CA and I'm in IL or I would have taken her).

She finally gave her up.

She's still devastated about it and agonizes to this day whether she should have just gotten her debarked since her dog died at the shelter within 6 weeks from bloat. She was only 6 years old.

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Depriving a dog of their freedom to speak by "debarking" them is legal? [View all] Turborama Oct 2012 OP

Never mind freedom of speech, it's just pure animal cruelty bluestateguy Oct 2012 #1

+1 AngryOldDem Oct 2012 #3

Agree. I have similar issues with declawing cats. yellowcanine Oct 2012 #51

Docking, cropping, declawing, de-barking... Scootaloo Oct 2012 #2

actually, legally, a pet IS a posession scheming daemons Oct 2012 #7

Pedantry Scootaloo Oct 2012 #9

Sure but that's just for legal convienience n/t Prophet 451 Oct 2012 #37

Not to mention cutting their nuts off. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #57

Nor does the removal of the uterus, apparently. Scootaloo Oct 2012 #67

People who keep dogs for intimidation purposes suck, you'll get no argument from me there. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #73

Yeah, the "freedom of speech" thing was silly... Scootaloo Oct 2012 #77

they're both healthy and happier without them TorchTheWitch Oct 2012 #69

Same thing. Cutting the nuts off just works better in a sentence. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #74

While I agree it is disgusting, dogs do not have freedom of speech. Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #4

Personally, I think anyone who believes in free speech is being knowingly cruel to deny it to a dog Turborama Oct 2012 #10

If we give right to animals, we would have to all become vegans. redgreenandblue Oct 2012 #16

Domestic animals do have rights. Turborama Oct 2012 #23

I'm sorry but when we eat domestic animals they do not have rights. Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #63

Some people want to deny the freedom of speech pintobean Oct 2012 #33

If you don't want to hear barking, don't get a dog. reformist2 Oct 2012 #5

People are too stupid to understand that concept. They could just buy a lawn ornament, LovePeacock Oct 2012 #12

It's a question of consideration for the neighbors as well though. wickerwoman Oct 2012 #55

I have mixed feelings about this. Sometimes this could be the best of several bad options. bklyncowgirl Oct 2012 #6

If you loved the dog, you wouldn't debark them. Getting rid of them would be more humane. LovePeacock Oct 2012 #13

"getting rid of them" is not necessarily more humane. magical thyme Oct 2012 #42

How do you get rid of a dog with behavior problems? bklyncowgirl Oct 2012 #53

That's what happened to my sister. Got divorced, moved into a condo, and the dog barked all the time riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #44

That's what I'm saying. Sometimes this may be the best solution. bklyncowgirl Oct 2012 #59

*facepalm* ..... animals are not covered by the bill of rights scheming daemons Oct 2012 #8

Yes. Compassion is the reason why liberals are ridiculed. We know. But I don't mind it. LovePeacock Oct 2012 #14

K&R!!! First touch of sanity in an otherwise COLGATE4 Oct 2012 #15

That article is why liberals are ridiculed and marginalized? Turborama Oct 2012 #17

Then ridicule and marginalize me. I'll still say de-barking dogs is cruel and sadistic. forestpath Oct 2012 #21

*facepalm*....the article doesn't say that animals are covered by the bill of rights. smokey nj Oct 2012 #28

*facepalm*....Freedom of Speech is a right only enumerated in the Constitution. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #38

*FACEDESK* The article didn't say it Turborama Oct 2012 #45

*facepunch*....You're right, YOU SAID IT. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #47

LOL, that's a good one Turborama Oct 2012 #52

There was no need to go past your headline. It was absurd. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #79

Why do you think this is flamebait? smokey nj Oct 2012 #71

Huh? I just explained in my last post, which you just replied to, why. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #80

I'm talking about the topic, not what was written in the subject line. Why would THAT be flamebait? smokey nj Oct 2012 #82

Unsure of what you are asking, as what I was talking about is quite clear. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #84

So you don't have an opinion on the article, you just decided to take the bait? If you think a smokey nj Oct 2012 #85

Is there a particular reason that you feel the need to attack me personally? cleanhippie Oct 2012 #87

I'm not attacking you personally. I enjoy your posts in the Atheists/Agnostics and Religion group. smokey nj Oct 2012 #88

I agree. And if you feel I attacked you up-thread, I apologise. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #89

Indeed! smokey nj Oct 2012 #92

The article doesn't say that a dog's freedom of speech is being taken away. smokey nj Oct 2012 #70

Who would do this? gollygee Oct 2012 #11

I've heard urban legends that highly sensitive military bases use barkless German Shepherds Blue_Tires Oct 2012 #58

1 ofthe reasons I have a dog(s) is because they bark. Nt xchrom Oct 2012 #18

True I was going to make a crack about the value of dog speech treestar Oct 2012 #40

Dogs have free speech? Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2012 #19

Their freedom to "speak" is being legally taken away from them Turborama Oct 2012 #24

I guess technically you are right. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2012 #27

As an animal lover, this...sickens me. Revolutionary Girl Oct 2012 #20

Next the bastards will try involuntary sterilization. dems_rightnow Oct 2012 #22

REALLY not the same thing. Humans get sterilized, too; very few get their vocal cords cut. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #26

This might be a good thing treestar Oct 2012 #41

Yes, humans are getting *neutered* left and right, without their consent Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #56

+1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #48

Anthropomorphizng is stupid. It's enough to say: Don't mutilate a dog! WinkyDink Oct 2012 #25

I *hate* the sound of barking dogs; don't have one, and certainly don't LeftinOH Oct 2012 #29

It's not about Berserker Oct 2012 #30

This is nothing short of cruelty and mutalization. 99Forever Oct 2012 #31

Freedom of Speech. That's Hilarious. NCTraveler Oct 2012 #32

We should debark Fox News instead. mmonk Oct 2012 #34

OMS, this is a thing?!? Prophet 451 Oct 2012 #35

It is legal to do many cruel and inhumane things to your dog, MadHound Oct 2012 #36

We seriously considered it with one of our dogs Nevernose Oct 2012 #39

Go to the drugstore and buy some Sam-E. MADem Oct 2012 #50

Good call on the anxiety issues Nevernose Oct 2012 #64

It's a supplement--you can find it in health food stores, but big box drug stores sell it too. MADem Oct 2012 #72

As a dog lover, I can't take sides on this magical thyme Oct 2012 #43

I agree renate Oct 2012 #46

Wow, major unrec on your post... joeybee12 Oct 2012 #76

Its obvious to me that dogs primarily communicate through scent and body posture. riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #65

Yeah, it does bother them...and read the article, after being debarked joeybee12 Oct 2012 #75

Being dumped and being de-barked are two very different issues magical thyme Oct 2012 #78

I have two dogs who like to bark. Terriers are like that. When they bark too much, MADem Oct 2012 #49

Um, people have their dogs' nuts cut off--- all the time. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #54

Strikes me as inhumane JonLP24 Oct 2012 #60

Barbarian ... except as a last ditch effort if barking is a deal-breaker. AtomicKitten Oct 2012 #61

I told my doggy about this and he is pissed! Jersey Devil Oct 2012 #62

Living animals do not have many rights at all, non-living corporations have more than I do. LanternWaste Oct 2012 #66

Depriving a cow of it's right to life by eating it is legal too. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #68

Most of the time this happens in highrises. undeterred Oct 2012 #81

I don't think dogs have the same rights as humans quinnox Oct 2012 #83

Extremely Cruel warrprayer Oct 2012 #86

"On the third day, Zorra Oct 2012 #90

To Serve Man isn't an instruction manual datasuspect Oct 2012 #91