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Bernardo de La Paz

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11. That's more wrong: It's Russian. The Ukranian second syllable in the name is very short in time.

Reply to bucolic_frolic (Reply #5)

Fri Feb 25, 2022, 07:25 AM

Feb 2022

Key-ev is the Russian way to pronounce it and it is common in the West.
The Ukranian language, though obviously influenced by Russian, is not Russian.

Listen to this:

Notice how she says the second syllable is like YIEld (YIE) (longish but perhaps not as long as Americans say that word) but then when she pronounces it together the second syllable is very short in length, and to my ear gets more like a "short" vowel.

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Amin Mohidin on MSNBC is the only personality who pronounces Kyiv with 2 syllables. [View all] RicROC Feb 2022 OP

Ayman Mohyeldin is an Egyptian-born journalist. elleng Feb 2022 #1

+1. Hard to get more definitive than official source in the city itself. Ukranian, NOT Russian Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #14

Oh, okay that explains it PatSeg Feb 2022 #27

How did we get to this atrocity of Keeeev? Baitball Blogger Feb 2022 #2

Because that's how you say it obamanut2012 Feb 2022 #4

Everything I've read says it's a two syllable word. Baitball Blogger Feb 2022 #6

A resident of Kiev was explaining how they say it and it was one syllable, Hortensis Feb 2022 #16

Well then, use the Ukranian spelling, NOT the Russian spelling. Ukranians write Kyiv Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #17

:) Good point. Maybe you could start a thread for that. Hortensis Feb 2022 #19

It is two syllables. Linguists and Ukranian linguists say it is two syllables Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #20

I was going to mention what linguists will make of Hortensis Feb 2022 #21

You are good and should have no regrets. Testing our knowledge & ideas by posting them is great! Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #23

Me too. Least I can do. Hortensis Feb 2022 #25

Does she say "it is one syllable" or do you HEAR it as one syllable Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #8

Because Russification & bc many do not have a finely tuned ear for languages Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #15

My Ukrainian coworker says "Keev" obamanut2012 Feb 2022 #3

Mika says Key-ev bucolic_frolic Feb 2022 #5

I heard Lawrence pronounce it that way too padah513 Feb 2022 #9

That's more wrong: It's Russian. The Ukranian second syllable in the name is very short in time. Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #11

I always thought Keev was an incorrect pronunciation SouthernDem4ever Feb 2022 #7

I think, worldwide, local populations shorten pronunciations of their locale for convenience bucolic_frolic Feb 2022 #10

+1 Deminpenn Feb 2022 #24

Don't forget Louisville (Lowville) and New Orleans (Norleans). rgbecker Feb 2022 #28

other mispronunciations. RicROC Feb 2022 #30

Key-ev is Russian, not Ukranian pronunciation. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #12

Watching CNN interview a former Ukranian president in Kyiv... W_HAMILTON Feb 2022 #13

Well, given 75 years have passed since WWII and we still can't get Auschwitz pronounced correctly... hlthe2b Feb 2022 #18

Yup. Popular conception of American Exceptionalism comes out as American Arrogance Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #22

Good. I feel weird saying Chicken Keev. milestogo Feb 2022 #26

Your PhD friend is correct, as naturally he would be. MineralMan Feb 2022 #29

We used 2 syllables when we spelled it "Kiev" 3 decades ago. Ilsa Feb 2022 #31

"Keev" is closer to the Ukranian pronunciation than the Russian "key-yev"... Silent3 Feb 2022 #32

K sounds like the ch in a eord Deminpenn Feb 2022 #34

Wikipedia explains. moondust Feb 2022 #33