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Bernardo de La Paz

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20. It is two syllables. Linguists and Ukranian linguists say it is two syllables

Reply to Hortensis (Reply #16)

Fri Feb 25, 2022, 08:03 AM

Feb 2022

As to the K sound, there is a little bit of fricative noise that is part of that k sound (but not other k sounds).

If you listen to the video I posted https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16396404 you can hear it in the way she pronounces the K.

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Amin Mohidin on MSNBC is the only personality who pronounces Kyiv with 2 syllables. [View all] RicROC Feb 2022 OP

Ayman Mohyeldin is an Egyptian-born journalist. elleng Feb 2022 #1

+1. Hard to get more definitive than official source in the city itself. Ukranian, NOT Russian Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #14

Oh, okay that explains it PatSeg Feb 2022 #27

How did we get to this atrocity of Keeeev? Baitball Blogger Feb 2022 #2

Because that's how you say it obamanut2012 Feb 2022 #4

Everything I've read says it's a two syllable word. Baitball Blogger Feb 2022 #6

A resident of Kiev was explaining how they say it and it was one syllable, Hortensis Feb 2022 #16

Well then, use the Ukranian spelling, NOT the Russian spelling. Ukranians write Kyiv Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #17

:) Good point. Maybe you could start a thread for that. Hortensis Feb 2022 #19

It is two syllables. Linguists and Ukranian linguists say it is two syllables Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #20

I was going to mention what linguists will make of Hortensis Feb 2022 #21

You are good and should have no regrets. Testing our knowledge & ideas by posting them is great! Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #23

Me too. Least I can do. Hortensis Feb 2022 #25

Does she say "it is one syllable" or do you HEAR it as one syllable Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #8

Because Russification & bc many do not have a finely tuned ear for languages Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #15

My Ukrainian coworker says "Keev" obamanut2012 Feb 2022 #3

Mika says Key-ev bucolic_frolic Feb 2022 #5

I heard Lawrence pronounce it that way too padah513 Feb 2022 #9

That's more wrong: It's Russian. The Ukranian second syllable in the name is very short in time. Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #11

I always thought Keev was an incorrect pronunciation SouthernDem4ever Feb 2022 #7

I think, worldwide, local populations shorten pronunciations of their locale for convenience bucolic_frolic Feb 2022 #10

+1 Deminpenn Feb 2022 #24

Don't forget Louisville (Lowville) and New Orleans (Norleans). rgbecker Feb 2022 #28

other mispronunciations. RicROC Feb 2022 #30

Key-ev is Russian, not Ukranian pronunciation. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #12

Watching CNN interview a former Ukranian president in Kyiv... W_HAMILTON Feb 2022 #13

Well, given 75 years have passed since WWII and we still can't get Auschwitz pronounced correctly... hlthe2b Feb 2022 #18

Yup. Popular conception of American Exceptionalism comes out as American Arrogance Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #22

Good. I feel weird saying Chicken Keev. milestogo Feb 2022 #26

Your PhD friend is correct, as naturally he would be. MineralMan Feb 2022 #29

We used 2 syllables when we spelled it "Kiev" 3 decades ago. Ilsa Feb 2022 #31

"Keev" is closer to the Ukranian pronunciation than the Russian "key-yev"... Silent3 Feb 2022 #32

K sounds like the ch in a eord Deminpenn Feb 2022 #34

Wikipedia explains. moondust Feb 2022 #33