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gab13by13

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24. Ukraine is not going to stop Russia from taking over Ukraine/Kyiv.

Fri Feb 25, 2022, 10:05 PM

Feb 2022

Richard Engle said tonight on Rachel that Russia has only used 1/3 of its troops so far.

Ukraine will defeat Russia with a strong insurgency, the Russian army can't remain in Ukraine forever. When it looks like Kyiv is about to fall, Zelensky should direct his military to remove their uniforms and fight undercover, and he should govern from another country. Ukraine needs military people leading the insurgency.

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The heroic stand is admirable, but I wish Zelensky would get out [View all] AdamGG Feb 2022 OP

Disagree TheProle Feb 2022 #1

It's hard for a person of honor to abandon his people. BlueTsunami2018 Feb 2022 #2

When you're a real leader, you lead. dchill Feb 2022 #3

It was good enough for DeGaulle to get out of Paris. C_U_L8R Feb 2022 #4

I agree and think many in Ukraine would see it that way, too. nt spooky3 Feb 2022 #6

+1 dalton99a Feb 2022 #11

Exactly, Degaulle was the example I was thinking of AdamGG Feb 2022 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author Mary in S. Carolina Feb 2022 #19

I think he should get out of Kyiv but stay in Ukraine...somewhere in the west of the country nt EX500rider Feb 2022 #5

I pray they're helping people to point shoot straight including zelensky uponit7771 Feb 2022 #7

I agree with what all of you are saying, I just don't see how staying will end well AdamGG Feb 2022 #8

On the other hand, I think he is making it harder for Putin to kill or jail him? Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #9

The Russians will probably claim that he was killed inadvertantly by crossfire from his own troops AdamGG Feb 2022 #20

Right or he fell out of a window. Tragic accident. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #22

Like when Benazir Bhutto was killed and Pakistani state police said AdamGG Feb 2022 #32

Yep. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #37

He's like Vitali Klitschko DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2022 #35

That is what I am thinking. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #38

I get why some people think he should stay, but as you say he is the legitimate leader. Flaleftist Feb 2022 #10

A country needs this kind of leader to beat the terrible odds. BootinUp Feb 2022 #12

Totally disagree ... that would completely demoralize Raine Feb 2022 #13

"Follow me" Bad Thoughts Feb 2022 #15

You made me think of the scene from "Glory" where BootinUp Feb 2022 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author Mary in S. Carolina Feb 2022 #16

He would be martyred and the next would take up the mantle. CrackityJones75 Feb 2022 #41

Disagree. Leaders lead. Refugees escape. Tetrachloride Feb 2022 #17

it's a point of no return. He won't leave. And we ALL should be forever grateful for his bravery. AlexSFCA Feb 2022 #18

I will leave it to him to decide what he thinks is best. He is the only one who is truly facing marked50 Feb 2022 #21

This is the only correct answer. hippywife Feb 2022 #40

Ukraine is not going to stop Russia from taking over Ukraine/Kyiv. gab13by13 Feb 2022 #24

If he waits until Kyiv is "about to fall" AdamGG Feb 2022 #33

Nope. He is where a country's leader belongs. To leave is to abandon his post. nt Hekate Feb 2022 #25

Think ahead, gab13by13 Feb 2022 #26

At this point, there are others who can step in. haele Feb 2022 #28

+1000 AdamGG Feb 2022 #31

I would expect that he has set up a succession plan Metaphorical Feb 2022 #27

With Zelensky gone, Russian psy-ops will sow discord among the Ukranian resistance AdamGG Feb 2022 #42

These guys know how to fight a guerilla war... Justice matters. Feb 2022 #29

lots of brave keyboard jockeys here NoRethugFriends Feb 2022 #30

The US offered to help him get out iemanja Feb 2022 #34

Nope. It's called "truth to power" UTUSN Feb 2022 #36

Leningrad or Stalingrad 1942 BlueWavePsych Feb 2022 #39