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RockRaven

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7. "No fly zones" are more or less acts of war. So, no.

Reply to ColinC (Original post)

Sat Feb 26, 2022, 01:50 AM

Feb 2022

Forget any "police action" or "security" bullshit Americans got used to in the 90s Iraq or more recently the British/French thing in Lybia. That was a euphemism. Always was. Always will be.

Enforcing a "no fly zone" means shooting down planes. Because they won't stop coming into the air space unless you do. You're asking whether the US Air Force should start shooting down Russian planes over Ukraine. That is, and will be reacted to, as an act of war. So you are asking should the US and Russia should engage in war. No. They should not.

That way lies nuclear winter, famine, billions of deaths, and even human extinction.

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Should NATO enforce a no fly zone over Kyiv? [View all] ColinC Feb 2022 OP

Gonna trust Biden's Admin who sees the big picture better than me. Hoyt Feb 2022 #1

so u want US jets to shoot down Russian jets. really? nt msongs Feb 2022 #2

Wouldn't be even close to the first time NATO has shot down Russian jets ColinC Feb 2022 #4

unbelievable some of the 'armchair general' cray cray coming out of the woodwork for days Celerity Feb 2022 #17

It would be considered an act of war, so no. BootinUp Feb 2022 #3

Good lord, no. No direct confrontation. Wingus Dingus Feb 2022 #5

Disaster is unavoidable at this point. ColinC Feb 2022 #6

It's a limited war, confined to one country. Wingus Dingus Feb 2022 #8

It isn't though. ColinC Feb 2022 #11

There is a bright line, and that's an attack on a NATO country. Wingus Dingus Feb 2022 #14

That's a dangerous line to wait for imho ColinC Feb 2022 #16

We have troops in NATO countries right now just in case the madman attacks one Justice matters. Feb 2022 #18

At this rate I'm open to "attack" being very loosely defined. ColinC Feb 2022 #19

The madman will not do that. Justice matters. Feb 2022 #21

Unfortunately I don't think the madman has anything to lose anymore ColinC Feb 2022 #23

Let's doubt it. He's not winning in Ukraine. Justice matters. Feb 2022 #24

"No fly zones" are more or less acts of war. So, no. RockRaven Feb 2022 #7

I sure hope I'm wrong, but I don't think your last sentence is avoidable ColinC Feb 2022 #9

No, we should use a small yield tactical nuke or two to target Putin, his family and end this Shanti Shanti Shanti Feb 2022 #10

Kinda agree ColinC Feb 2022 #12

We may as well launch a full first strike against them DetroitLegalBeagle Feb 2022 #13

I could go for conventional cruise missiles if we get him out in the open Shanti Shanti Shanti Feb 2022 #15

Russian "silent" nuclear subs not far from our beaches too... Justice matters. Feb 2022 #20

That would still result in war DetroitLegalBeagle Feb 2022 #22