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Irish_Dem

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94. At this point, I cannot predict what will happen. Too many moving parts

Tue Mar 1, 2022, 04:57 PM

Mar 2022

which are changing by the hour.

Two hours ago I said Putin would prevail in the short term. Now all bets are off. But yes I agree, Ukraine would win the long term war against Putin.

Right, unless we win our own war against Putin in the US and do it soon, we are going to lose our democracy. Putin's takeover of the US is part of why he felt invincible and could take over Europe. Putin owns half the US congress and the media. And he is helping the GOP establish an autocratic form of government, with corrupt US politicians and oligarchs.

Maybe we need to be like Ukraine and start fighting back.

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Russian Move On Kyiv Is Stalled - US has indications that some Russian Units have surrendered [View all] kpete Mar 2022 OP

OMG! Please be true!!! honest.abe Mar 2022 #1

Yes. I really hope it's true JohnSJ Mar 2022 #13

Doubtful. First, it is NOT a 40-mile-long convoy, it was 3.5 miles long when parked two days ago. L. Coyote Mar 2022 #45

Washington Post says it's 40 miles long left-of-center2012 Mar 2022 #68

They are wrong. This started with a bad translation of "40 miles from" Kyiv, L. Coyote Mar 2022 #84

link ? left-of-center2012 Mar 2022 #90

WTF is going on? Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #2

That is what I am saying, WTF is going on. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #24

Every day I cringe to Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #29

From a military standpoint, nothing is making any sense. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #34

I read an article in the past week (forget where) leftieNanner Mar 2022 #37

He should have had military intel telling him enemy capability, Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #50

I am always wondering this too. How is this so messed up? AllyCat Mar 2022 #69

You have the issue correctly. TomSlick Mar 2022 #76

my emotions are all over the place Piasladic Mar 2022 #39

Because Putin was delusional enough to believe they WANTED him there. oldsoftie Mar 2022 #52

Didn't he listen to his military intel? The man is acting psychotic. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #62

Quite possible that they wouldn't tell him what they knew he didn't want to hear. oldsoftie Mar 2022 #64

Same thing Hitler did and we know how that ended. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #67

HA! oldsoftie Mar 2022 #72

Putin held all the cards. He had the advantage of a big military presence. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #57

+1 Piasladic Mar 2022 #74

We don't know what he will do. But he is capable of using nukes. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #87

Yes emotionally this is seriously disturbing, and we are all over the map. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #58

They had Ukraine nearly surrounded Warpy Mar 2022 #71

Yes it was a very shoddy military action. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #88

They can't overcome the initial screwup, that of invading in the first place. Warpy Mar 2022 #93

At this point, I cannot predict what will happen. Too many moving parts Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #94

YEEEEESSSSS!!! calimary Mar 2022 #96

Zelensky is showing us the way. He is using PR and words to beat Putin. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #99

As bad as it is for the average Russian soldier (who we used to call Ivan) COL Mustard Mar 2022 #55

It would have been a wholesale slaughter of Russian troops. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #61

I'm all for laughing at him COL Mustard Mar 2022 #82

Unfortunately the more he feels humiliated, the more he might reach for nukes. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #89

Exactly!! WarGamer Mar 2022 #98

Hooo,boy yeah... electric_blue68 Mar 2022 #63

Let's hope Jerry2144 Mar 2022 #3

I heard on NPR that... JasonMain Mar 2022 #12

I heard that, too NJCher Mar 2022 #92

I was encouraged regarding the ones who said treestar Mar 2022 #43

I saw that too Jerry2144 Mar 2022 #44

Time Will Tell...(opinion- I don't think "Time" is on Putin's side). Stuart G Mar 2022 #4

True! 2naSalit Mar 2022 #18

Beware the Ides of March Jerry2144 Mar 2022 #46

One can hope PortTack Mar 2022 #5

Right the plan would be to starve out Kyiv and hit it with artillery. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #25

Ordered to kill people and you don't know why, eating ancient rations, pay is worth less than sand ck4829 Mar 2022 #6

Pay is really worth squat, gab13by13 Mar 2022 #14

So the Russian soldiers are working for free. Risking their lives, etc. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #26

Yup. Marius25 Mar 2022 #32

There will be nothing left for them to fight for. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #35

Thats a great point. That news should somehow be given to the Russian troops oldsoftie Mar 2022 #56

I suspect that Ukrainian tech and PR folks have been texting the Russian kids haele Mar 2022 #28

The Russian Troops know that if they are inside any vehicle that a javelin missile has it's #, .... Botany Mar 2022 #7

Perfect time to send in the drones. JasonMain Mar 2022 #8

... Nevilledog Mar 2022 #9

Looks like disinformation. "U.S. Official says" And no link. yellowcanine Mar 2022 #10

+1, but it works for our side to get messaging back to Putler. No DOUBT he's watching US media uponit7771 Mar 2022 #16

This guy works for ForeignPolicy.com which I believe is legit. honest.abe Mar 2022 #17

However, if they WERE making progress... dchill Mar 2022 #20

They are there now, we've tracked their movements in satellite images. Plus .... L. Coyote Mar 2022 #48

Yeah I heard Kyiv is 2 hours from border. Captain Zero Mar 2022 #54

Reuters link here: Moosepoop Mar 2022 #38

WaPo link IronLionZion Mar 2022 #49

Absolutely. And the Russians don't care about 'comfort" of their troops. oldsoftie Mar 2022 #59

I found it...Dan Lamothe from WaPo. Military reporter AllyCat Mar 2022 #73

Good news but sarisataka Mar 2022 #11

Boy, that's an old dirty trick. gab13by13 Mar 2022 #15

doesn't even be so high tech bc plain dirt will do it housecat Mar 2022 #30

this aint the kind of war you can send underfed conscripts into and expect to win. mopinko Mar 2022 #19

+1 Kaleva Mar 2022 #66

Transcript of Pentagon briefing at this link Wicked Blue Mar 2022 #21

The Russian ruble is rubble...not worth a damn. How would have thought Raven Mar 2022 #22

With Russia being a kleptocracy, temporary311 Mar 2022 #23

+1. Thievery is a feature at all levels dalton99a Mar 2022 #33

I heard they are offering money to soldiers Tree Lady Mar 2022 #27

Wow qazplm135 Mar 2022 #31

We are lucky AF they're inept; just like Traitor Tot is inept at most things. OMGWTF Mar 2022 #42

I wish that would be the case. There is no more reason for Russian soldiers to die than there Vinca Mar 2022 #36

I have nothing but respect gir Russian troops dflprincess Mar 2022 #40

Let's Face It - Putin Is the Only One Who Really Wants to Fight This War. panfluteman Mar 2022 #41

Thanks for posting. n/t TeamProg Mar 2022 #47

"Logistics". The difference between a "click" & a 'bang". oldsoftie Mar 2022 #51

Yes! The WAPO headline confirms it: lindysalsagal Mar 2022 #53

Awesome FakeNoose Mar 2022 #60

What about the surrendering part? thx in advance uponit7771 Mar 2022 #75

Sorry. I don't know. I posted the whole article. lindysalsagal Mar 2022 #79

More from Reuters honest.abe Mar 2022 #65

Morale problems will be "solved" in some unpleasant ways, I'm guessing. Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #78

They could bring back the NKVD attitude adj. battalions Kaleva Mar 2022 #80

That's probably on some of their minds, if they know their own history. Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #81

Beatings will continue until morale improves honest.abe Mar 2022 #86

Either surrender or blue-wave Mar 2022 #70

Zelensky's office says they've been shelling elements of that convoy force. Per statement made Cognitive_Resonance Mar 2022 #77

Here's my suspicion at this point jmowreader Mar 2022 #83

Not precisely, Turkish drones and other NATO help were deciding factors in Putin JCMach1 Mar 2022 #95

My fear is the Russians will bomb the heck out of the civilians Jarqui Mar 2022 #85

I so hope this is true samsingh Mar 2022 #91

"Eff this $hit" lpbk2713 Mar 2022 #97