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In reply to the discussion: A lot of people only seem willing to fight to the last Ukrainian [View all]ruet
(10,037 posts)19. Wait, What Do You Think They Invaded For?
They invaded precisely to keep Ukraine from joining the EU and/or NATO. They said as much.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2022-02-24/explainer-why-did-russia-invade-ukraine
What does Russia want when it comes to Ukraine?
A principal demand of Russia is to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO, a military alliance between 28 European countries and two North American countries dedicated to preserving peace and security in the North Atlantic area. The former Soviet state is one of just a few countries in Eastern Europe that arent members of the alliance. The Kremlin in general views NATO expansion as a fundamental concern, according to a translated readout of a Jan. 28 call between Putin and French President Emmanuel Macron.
Its noteworthy, however, that NATO likely has no intention right now to admit Ukraine to the organization, says William Pomeranz, the acting director of the Kennan Institute at the Wilson Center, a non-partisan policy forum for global issues.
I think NATO, and the invitation for Ukraine to join NATO at some point in the future, is simply just a pretext to potentially invade Ukraine, he says, referring to Russia. Ukraine is not a member of NATO, it doesn't have any of the NATO guarantees, and so there is no hint that Ukraine will become a member of NATO soon.
Putin, specifically, does not want Ukraine to join NATO not because he has some principled disagreement related to the rule of law or something, it's because he has a might makes right model, adds Bradley Bowman, the senior director of the Center on Military and Political Power at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, a non-partisan research institute focused on national security and foreign policy.
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When it comes to a cognitively-impaired nutter with nukes, being scared isn't a bad thing. n/t
TygrBright
Mar 2022
#2
But it injects doubt in NATO's willingness to act to defend NATO members in the future.
bluewater
Mar 2022
#4
Get back to us when the nutter with nukes actually lays a foot in NATO territory
herding cats
Mar 2022
#30
If Russia promised to nuke your hometown if the U.S. intervened militarily, I suspect you'd think.."
58Sunliner
Mar 2022
#9
I agree. Putin knows he does not have the resources to survive a drawn out war.
58Sunliner
Mar 2022
#7
Look at his inner brass. I just don't see any heros there. Just career Putin sycophants.
herding cats
Mar 2022
#29