Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

sarisataka

(22,650 posts)
61. The SSBNs typically don't venture
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 06:05 PM
Mar 2022

Out of arctic waters. Russia knows they are too vulnerable so they are kept close where they can be protected by attack subs, surface ships and land based air.

The SSGNs are the close in threat. They have three older Oscar class boats that are still effective. Each has 24 missile tubes that could be loaded with nuke tipped Kalibr cruise missiles.

They also have three of the new Yasen class which are uncomfortably close to our Seawolf class. Each Yasen can carry 40 Kalibrs

Even if we take out half before they can launch, that could mean 75 missiles each carrying 100kt arriving with short notice.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

I would guess qazplm135 Mar 2022 #1
Personally, I rather not know. Claustrum Mar 2022 #7
Correct - Putin knows he's dead a few minutes after pushing the button. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #8
Putin would almost certainly survive if he chose to launch. Jedi Guy Mar 2022 #24
Putin would be located in a secure secret bunker. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #33
How long could he survive, and to what purpose? lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #36
A toxic narcissist/sociopath wouldn't care that everyone else is dead. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #48
The Navy was beating the watters about 100 miles SW of Tampa over the weekend. Ex Lurker Mar 2022 #71
So I will have as little as 10 and as much as 30... ret5hd Mar 2022 #2
I'll go with you. n/t LuckyCharms Mar 2022 #5
Not a problem - I'm already close enough. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #10
I would drive towards the local air force base. SoonerPride Mar 2022 #25
Yeah we would I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2022 #3
Depends on whether it's a land based ICBM, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #4
Yep... depressed-trajectory shot from a boomer skulking off the East Coast. Jedi Guy Mar 2022 #31
I think this is how Putin would do it. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #47
I doubt he'd station a boomer in the Black Sea, yes. No real point even if it were possible. Jedi Guy Mar 2022 #51
Both the North Sea & English Channel are too shallow for boomers... EX500rider Mar 2022 #59
That's a relief. Taking a depressed-trajectory shot from that close off the table is good news. Jedi Guy Mar 2022 #62
Possible EX500rider Mar 2022 #75
Yes not necessary for a boomer to be in the Black Sea. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #60
The SSBNs typically don't venture sarisataka Mar 2022 #61
Seems odd that that's their strategy with their SSBNs, though. Jedi Guy Mar 2022 #64
The logic, as I have been told, sarisataka Mar 2022 #69
Ahhhhh, I see. Jedi Guy Mar 2022 #70
Ballistic missile subs have always been considered the more survivable of the triad DetroitLegalBeagle Mar 2022 #83
itls my understanding that there are certain MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #76
Would be less DetroitLegalBeagle Mar 2022 #6
long enough to jam all the phone lines WhiteTara Mar 2022 #9
Is this really where we are right now? smirkymonkey Mar 2022 #11
This has come through my mind since the first day of the attack. Claustrum Mar 2022 #17
I see you are in NYC. I lived there during 9/11 and until that point I never imagined such smirkymonkey Mar 2022 #32
Lets hope we all stay safe and cooler heads prevail. Claustrum Mar 2022 #40
+1 2naSalit Mar 2022 #20
Kinda like grandpa...die in your sleep... ret5hd Mar 2022 #27
*snort* smirkymonkey Mar 2022 #38
Yes. When Putin threatens nukes or chemical/biological warfare, it gives one pause. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #50
Zilch if Status-6 is operational bottrott Mar 2022 #12
There'd be little to no warning. WarGamer Mar 2022 #13
He's not going to nuke anyone. Nor will North Korea. LakeArenal Mar 2022 #14
Oh goodness. If I vaporize hope I only feel it for a minute. I refuse to live in this fear. boston bean Mar 2022 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2022 #16
Not enough of it dumbcat Mar 2022 #28
Can't stop them all sarisataka Mar 2022 #30
We do and we don't. BannonsLiver Mar 2022 #43
A handful, possibly. A thousand? Nope NickB79 Mar 2022 #53
Where are these And place and ready to go at any time?? USALiberal Mar 2022 #66
10 to 30 minutes is long enough to pour a good drink and/or toke. Hoyt Mar 2022 #18
Did this really need to be asked? ificandream Mar 2022 #19
Tactical nukes are considered "non-strategic" nuclear weapons... AntiFascist Mar 2022 #21
Some people will have some warning, and get on planes to Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #22
We, as in DU folks, sarisataka Mar 2022 #23
I work in the last train stop town JustAnotherGen Mar 2022 #26
If I could get there I'd join ya. boston bean Mar 2022 #39
Lordy. Don't look up. Hekate Mar 2022 #29
I don't think we'd know, and then Hawaii had that attack warning snafu a few years ago. Calista241 Mar 2022 #34
Just curious, how old are you? hardluck Mar 2022 #35
Gen X (mid 40's). I missed all this fun last time. NightWatcher Mar 2022 #45
I'm Gen X and I grew up with this threat-- Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #79
I was 2 years 1 month and 29 days old when the US dropped the bomb on Hiroshima. marie999 Mar 2022 #81
Long enough to call my boys and tell them how much I love them, hug my darling wife ... 11 Bravo Mar 2022 #37
I can't, unless they thought that harm to themselves, or death, was inevitable. smirkymonkey Mar 2022 #46
Thank God we spent trillions on our Star Wars Missile Defense System. Midnight Writer Mar 2022 #41
Not enough Captain Zero Mar 2022 #42
if you live in big city... Javaman Mar 2022 #44
What big cities are most likely to be nuked? smirkymonkey Mar 2022 #55
Chicago, Miami, Seattle. DetroitLegalBeagle Mar 2022 #65
Thanks for the info! smirkymonkey Mar 2022 #77
Houston is likely top 5...... BruceWane Mar 2022 #72
Didn't realize that they would be so high up on the list. smirkymonkey Mar 2022 #78
Yep DetroitLegalBeagle Mar 2022 #82
Gamma radiation from the fallout would the biggest threat Kaleva Mar 2022 #49
I disagree. Nuclear winter would be the biggest threat NickB79 Mar 2022 #57
Just long enough to get your head between your knees dweller Mar 2022 #52
If it came from a sub, it could be quicker than that. Chainfire Mar 2022 #54
Who cares? maxsolomon Mar 2022 #56
Possibly enough time to know you're going to die, but not enough to do anything about it (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Mar 2022 #58
Best Answer! NightWatcher Mar 2022 #63
I'm 60 years old, and I pondered that question most of my childhood, and the answer is... Iggo Mar 2022 #67
Too much and not enough Retrograde Mar 2022 #68
20-30 minutes by ICBM, 5-10 minutes by submarine launch. roamer65 Mar 2022 #73
No warning at all. Info on incoming ICBMs would be classified. JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2022 #74
You're chances of surviving BGBD Mar 2022 #80
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»How much warning would we...»Reply #61