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Wingus Dingus

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38. Right. He made it clear he doesn't think Ukraine has a right to be its own country

Fri Mar 4, 2022, 09:04 PM

Mar 2022

but is instead a natural part of Russia. "Fear of NATO" is just an excuse to land-grab. He's angry NATO exists but works around it just fine.

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A different perspective on Putin and Ukraine [View all] drmeow Mar 2022 OP

IIRC, those Eastern European countries asked to join NATO... Wounded Bear Mar 2022 #1

Putin owns this. CentralMass Mar 2022 #2

Sure sounds like you're trying to lessen Russia's responsibility MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #3

Oh poor Russia, we forced them to snuff out a nation. Thank you for clearing that up. denbot Mar 2022 #4

I know I just read or heard a denial BootinUp Mar 2022 #5

Okay. Did Ukraine provoke the invasion? Caliman73 Mar 2022 #6

There's no excusing Putin's motive Sur Zobra Mar 2022 #7

It takes some amount of honesty to examine root causes or try to explain the "why". JanMichael Mar 2022 #8

Joining NATO didn't make Poland or Hungary swing right. CentralMass Mar 2022 #11

No but joining the EU and NATO certainly has not liberalized them either. JanMichael Mar 2022 #17

Last I knew it isn't in NATO's charter to inforce racial justice or liberal CentralMass Mar 2022 #20

Didn't say that thanks. The EU? JanMichael Mar 2022 #21

just an FYI: the African and Asian students trying to pass into Poland did not not have passports PortTack Mar 2022 #29

I think your RCA is good. Buckeyeblue Mar 2022 #13

Follow the money. RCA Root Cause Analysis is no good Tetrachloride Mar 2022 #24

Which is why, of course... regnaD kciN Mar 2022 #9

In 1990, Secretary of State Baker met with Gorbachev and said that NATO would not move East. marie999 Mar 2022 #10

Later Gorbachov, Igel Mar 2022 #26

So if the leaders of Russia were not dictators and criminals then they would Bev54 Mar 2022 #12

Vlad approved. BannonsLiver Mar 2022 #14

Even there, Igel Mar 2022 #27

This is what Russia wants us to say -- to deflect blame. Pobeka Mar 2022 #15

"See what you made me do..." dixiechiken1 Mar 2022 #16

But it's all okay because the abuser had a shitty childhood. Crunchy Frog Mar 2022 #35

One thing about abusers I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2022 #43

That (undocumented) agreement didn't give Eastern European nations a say. maxsolomon Mar 2022 #18

Oh, for fuck's sake. Scrivener7 Mar 2022 #19

my my my. how long has Pootie been planning this ? Tetrachloride Mar 2022 #22

+1. dalton99a Mar 2022 #37

Warmed over Putinista propaganda and apologia. Disappointing to see this here as anything tritsofme Mar 2022 #23

+1000 PortTack Mar 2022 #30

Wow, George F. Kennan, father of the Truman doctrine and the US Cold War policy of containment Celerity Mar 2022 #40

I do think that our handling of the Soviet breakup was badly botched, Crunchy Frog Mar 2022 #25

Bullshit... orwell Mar 2022 #28

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2022 #31

Russia didn't want NATO in Ukraine because they planned to invade eventually. Renew Deal Mar 2022 #32

Right. He made it clear he doesn't think Ukraine has a right to be its own country Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #38

Calling the country "The Ukraine" is the Russian way of trying to own it. Please don't. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2022 #33

bullshit jcgoldie Mar 2022 #34

The author conveniently left out the Budapest agreement dalton99a Mar 2022 #36

Usually the RW "AIM" ("Accuracy In Media" ) pens stuff like this BumRushDaShow Mar 2022 #39

ty to all replies in this thread. Enlightening. Tetrachloride Mar 2022 #41

Have we failed to coddle the dictator's delicate psyche in the manner Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #42