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Eyeball_Kid

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39. No.

Sat Mar 5, 2022, 04:36 PM

Mar 2022

If Putin withdraws, he loses. He has already defines victory in absolute terms. He destroys the myth of omnipotence and he is no longer feared. He dies a quick death. He also cannot give UKR an opportunity to get huge shipments of arms flooding into every corner of Ukraine. Regardless, he cannot defeat 20 million enraged and armed Ukrainians. So he’s a loser— politically, economically, militarily.

His doom is sealed… unless…
He flees to the US and runs to Trump in Florida. That’s a joke.

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I Will Speculate on An End to Russia's Ukraine Invasion [View all] MineralMan Mar 2022 OP

a token effort to shut down russia's oil exports is benefitting putin nt msongs Mar 2022 #1

Unnnn, Russia is trying to dump is oil on open market cause no one is shipping it (link) uponit7771 Mar 2022 #12

Sounds right. Do what we do. DURHAM D Mar 2022 #2

+1, .. but knock over all the chess board pieces before leaving uponit7771 Mar 2022 #14

He can claim that he got all the Nazis in Ukraine, then withdraw. dchill Mar 2022 #3

That's probably what he would claim KS Toronado Mar 2022 #69

The elevator thing is amazing. What to do what to do....? NightWatcher Mar 2022 #4

Keystone Cops stuff, isn't it? MineralMan Mar 2022 #8

logical? Locrian Mar 2022 #5

Well, even an insane person can sometimes tell that MineralMan Mar 2022 #6

The best analogy I've seen .. relayerbob Mar 2022 #16

Sort of. However, there's nobody near him, so he'll be the only one who dies. MineralMan Mar 2022 #17

Sadly, I do relayerbob Mar 2022 #20

I think he would go nuclear. I think trump would have if he could have. erronis Mar 2022 #61

Yes, he looked rattled yesterday. Not confidant looking at all. Quixote1818 Mar 2022 #27

Well, he clearly knows that it is not going well. MineralMan Mar 2022 #28

True, Putin would never surrender. wnylib Mar 2022 #68

K&R, There are 2 military analyst on OSINT IINM who think the UA forces have a 50/50 chance now uponit7771 Mar 2022 #7

Does that include Crimea? (N/T) LostOne4Ever Mar 2022 #41

No, not yet but the way things are going the Russians aren't going to be able to fight for uponit7771 Mar 2022 #42

truck drivers are hard to find ! ( snicker ) monkeyman1 Mar 2022 #55

lol 👍, uponit7771 Mar 2022 #78

Factual points that must weigh heavily for pootie. He's has no good options PortTack Mar 2022 #9

But does he Know that he has no good options? quakerboy Mar 2022 #83

Sounds optimistic. iemanja Mar 2022 #10

Yes, it does. As I said, I could easily be wrong. MineralMan Mar 2022 #15

Possibly declare victory and leave relayerbob Mar 2022 #11

Just want to say, bluestarone Mar 2022 #13

Good analysis if he has any logical thinking left. I think he will stick it out for at least another Quixote1818 Mar 2022 #18

I expect Putin will try to hang onto enough of Ukraine to call a ceasefire and make a deal. patphil Mar 2022 #19

maybe Putin will just hang himself RussBLib Mar 2022 #23

Yes! He has to get something out of this and that makes total sense. Quixote1818 Mar 2022 #24

My highest and best offer is GTFO NOW! OMGWTF Mar 2022 #51

There has to be unconditional surrender by Putin.." LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2022 #71

I agree. Putin will have to be led to this position through sanctions and battlefield failure. patphil Mar 2022 #75

Doubtful... dixiechiken1 Mar 2022 #21

OK. As I said, I could be wrong. MineralMan Mar 2022 #22

Would that we could... *sigh* dixiechiken1 Mar 2022 #38

Ukraine will make a lot of money in scrap metal. lpbk2713 Mar 2022 #25

Sure. Why not? MineralMan Mar 2022 #26

Nothing runs like a Deere. lpbk2713 Mar 2022 #30

LOL! MineralMan Mar 2022 #31

Every one is missing the fact that BajaDoll Mar 2022 #29

The only way he "holds" Crimea is with military force, he is slowly but SURELY running out of that uponit7771 Mar 2022 #45

If Russia goes clear to Odessa and takes it, gab13by13 Mar 2022 #66

He won't leave that easily. At the very least, he'll level the cities before going. tinrobot Mar 2022 #32

I think you're right Buckeyeblue Mar 2022 #33

Perhaps DENVERPOPS Mar 2022 #56

Always plcdude Mar 2022 #34

Good speculation. I think he will withdraw to part of Ukraine along border, Hoyt Mar 2022 #35

A big fat K&R! CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2022 #36

Putin needs a way out without losing face. That is what the West needs to work on. Doodley Mar 2022 #37

Of course, if Putin loses face because someone blasted it off, Ilsa Mar 2022 #63

No. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2022 #39

I think the western allies should keep the sanctions in place until Russia agrees to Gaugamela Mar 2022 #40

I like the sound of this! (N/T) LostOne4Ever Mar 2022 #43

+1, especially if Putler is to stay in power uponit7771 Mar 2022 #46

Goddamn, I like that idea. Efilroft Sul Mar 2022 #48

Agreed. They can give them yo Ukraine. nt Ilsa Mar 2022 #62

Absolutely! SheltieLover Mar 2022 #74

Looks like the Russian economy is rapidly turning to rubble, or, the ruble is rubble Hekate Mar 2022 #44

LOL! MineralMan Mar 2022 #47

The stories of Russian failure are amusing, meanwhile... AntiFascist Mar 2022 #49

Boomer Bravado by people 12,000 miles away should not be considered sufficient. bluewater Mar 2022 #65

I would not be surprised if Putin is assassinated (or "dies from a heart attack") soon. Rabrrrrrr Mar 2022 #50

TDFG has a bounty on his head - Iran ! they don't forget ! monkeyman1 Mar 2022 #79

You are probably not far off the mark. BMW2020RT Mar 2022 #52

Also add that shipping companies such as Maersk, and international airlines FakeNoose Mar 2022 #53

I agree with your 10 points and "the logical response" summation pandr32 Mar 2022 #54

I doubt Putin will act proactively or prudently bucolic_frolic Mar 2022 #57

What can the Israeli Prime Minister do? liberalla Mar 2022 #58

I don't know. MineralMan Mar 2022 #64

The US republican party Turbineguy Mar 2022 #59

I didn't see the words... lame54 Mar 2022 #60

I heard an interview this morning with someone doc03 Mar 2022 #67

Putin better look over his shoulder from now on. . . DinahMoeHum Mar 2022 #70

From your keyboard to the Divine Monitor! n/t TygrBright Mar 2022 #72

The More Likely Scenario... ruet Mar 2022 #73

I hope you're right! But, if Putin starts WWIII, Putin, China, U.S., India and others combined TeamProg Mar 2022 #76

I wish you were right, but the last 24 hours says you're likely wrong. Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #77

I don't think he has the option to retreat MadameButterfly Mar 2022 #80

Allow me, endgame is taking Odessa, southern ports, kill prez, give it 6 wks Shanti Shanti Shanti Mar 2022 #81

He has already used thermobaric weapons. marie999 Mar 2022 #82