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43. No, I don't accept your assertion that God is bound by human constructs of time,

Tue Mar 8, 2022, 03:48 PM

Mar 2022

a linear concept entailing a past, present, and future.

I think it is likely that the idea of past, present, and future is an ILLUSION, without any relevance to my beliefs about God.

But I'm resigned to the fact that this is too complicated an idea for you to grasp.

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Dicastery - always something new to learn - had to look it up. keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #1

Ditto. 72 year old RC here and I never heard of it! CurtEastPoint Mar 2022 #5

At first I figured he was sending two hot shots for the typical 'Bless 'em and forget 'em'. keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #7

How dare the pope question gawd's will??? Gawd is causing everything. He's MYSTEEEEEEERIOUS!!!! lindysalsagal Mar 2022 #2

Catholics don't believe in predestination. Everything that happens is NOT God's will, pnwmom Mar 2022 #8

Thank you nt XanaDUer2 Mar 2022 #9

There is no free will. There is only allowed will. All evil is pre-approved by God. keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #12

That is not the Catholic viewpoint. If God is all powerful pnwmom Mar 2022 #18

You prove my point exactly keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #19

An act is only done FREELY if it's NOT predestined or determined by God. pnwmom Mar 2022 #20

God knows all - past, present, and the future. keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #21

You just made an assumption based on your own religious beliefs, or critique thereof. pnwmom Mar 2022 #22

So to you, God is not all-powerful nor all knowing. keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #23

No, that's not what I'm saying. This isn't about the constructs of physics or biology. pnwmom Mar 2022 #24

I was taught that God is all-powerful and knows all, past, present, and future. keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #25

What you were taught rests on a scientific and linear construction of past, present, and future. pnwmom Mar 2022 #26

Love your long winded explanation that shows a weak God that does not know all and that science is m keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #27

That's not what I said. I'm sorry you're not capable of following my reasoning, pnwmom Mar 2022 #28

I believe that God is all-powerful and all-knowing; past, present. and future. keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #29

I believe that the human construct of past, present, and future may be an illusion. pnwmom Mar 2022 #31

So, your answer is "No". keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #32

I've said all along I'm not a Calvinist, and the disagreement between Calvinists like you pnwmom Mar 2022 #33

Do all Catholics think that God is weak and incapable of understanding your concept of linear time? keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #34

I never said God was "weak." That was your conclusion based on your logic, not mine. pnwmom Mar 2022 #35

You're doing fine. keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #36

I don't accept your Calvinist definitions, so your conclusions are irrelevant. n/t pnwmom Mar 2022 #37

You're still doing fine. keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #38

Your logic based on your definitions and your personal understanding of God. pnwmom Mar 2022 #39

You refuse to acknowledge that God is all-powerful/all-knowing. keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #40

I believe God is all powerful and all knowing and God has given people free will. pnwmom Mar 2022 #41

Was that so tough that it took so long to acknowledge keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #42

No, I don't accept your assertion that God is bound by human constructs of time, pnwmom Mar 2022 #43

Doggone! Now you're backing down on believing that God is all-powerful and all-knowing. keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #44

I told you. I understand Calvinist beliefs and I reject them. n/t pnwmom Mar 2022 #45

Not signing on to this. AngryOldDem Mar 2022 #10

Catholics don't believe in predestination obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #11

Only two? milestogo Mar 2022 #3

Maybe he hopes to be rid of these two. pandr32 Mar 2022 #4

They can speak the language? shrike3 Mar 2022 #30

Hope they stay safe. Pope Francis, try talking to the head of Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #6

I agree, although I don't think they recognize him. Kingofalldems Mar 2022 #14

I feel better already Ron Obvious Mar 2022 #13

Sarcasm aside, there are many devout Catholics in the war zone who will Raven Mar 2022 #15

Honourable sentiments from Pope Francis anamnua Mar 2022 #16

He, and other popular figures, can command millions of hearts and minds. pnwmom Mar 2022 #17