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In reply to the discussion: Julian Assange is the tech world's Donald Trump [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)4. HA! I saw "cringeley" in the url and I thought that might be a new meme working off
people or things that make one cringe....but it turns out to be the writer's name!
Assange "has to make all his own stuff?" He's never heard of AMAZON? They have a UK branch. AND...he's living across the bloody street from Harrod's. You can buy everything from an aardvark to a zebra there, damn near! Call them up and have them deliver!
The real meat of that piece is hidden on p.2--who knew the masked denizens of ANONYMOUS have "dumped" Assange? And they put it down to EGO as well! Fascinating development, that: http://www.infoworld.com/t/cringely/julian-assange-the-tech-worlds-donald-trump-discuss-205812?page=0,1
A lot of readers want to know why I'm so down on Assange. I realize that to some folks -- especially young impressionable types -- Assange is some heroic figure, like a cross between the Matthew Broderick character in "War Games" and Woodward & Bernstein, with maybe a little Mother Teresa thrown in. I have a more jaundiced viewpoint than that.
For the record, I think the allegations of sex abuse against Assange were trumped up, and I still don't understand why the Swedes couldn't interview the man in England. However, I believe Assange took something that could have been a force for good in the world -- WikiLeaks -- and turned it into a force for ego.
I'm hardly alone. Even Anonymous has dumped him. The Anons were easily Assange's most fervent supporters; my hunch is that most of the documents published by WikiLeaks originally came from Anonymous.
But earlier this month the Anons publicly abandoned its support via Twitter (of course):
For the record, I think the allegations of sex abuse against Assange were trumped up, and I still don't understand why the Swedes couldn't interview the man in England. However, I believe Assange took something that could have been a force for good in the world -- WikiLeaks -- and turned it into a force for ego.
I'm hardly alone. Even Anonymous has dumped him. The Anons were easily Assange's most fervent supporters; my hunch is that most of the documents published by WikiLeaks originally came from Anonymous.
But earlier this month the Anons publicly abandoned its support via Twitter (of course):
The end of an era. We unfollowed @Wikileaks and withdraw our support. It was an awesome idea, ruined by Egos. Good-bye.
Assange's good long fifteen minutes of fame might be drawing to an end.
Be interesting to see what this TYLER PROJECT produces!
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HA! I saw "cringeley" in the url and I thought that might be a new meme working off
MADem
Oct 2012
#4
Except that Assange actually has done and is doing things that are actually newsworthy.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Oct 2012
#5
The Anonymous people, apparently, are starting up their own "Wikileaks on Steroids."
MADem
Oct 2012
#39
I think they are going for the " massive distribution with no vetting model," I'm afraid.
MADem
Oct 2012
#48
It would be a fine solution--but I just don't see that happening. I think your latter scenario is
MADem
Oct 2012
#72
Hmmm. You do know that when you wear the costume, people do think you do the job associated with
MADem
Oct 2012
#41
You were asked for examples, not platitudes. Show us the "lies" that were exposed.
Tarheel_Dem
Oct 2012
#29
Knowing the extent of civilian casualties is, I agree, worth knowing and leaking.
randome
Oct 2012
#81
don't make fun of the sweet bebe jesus assange, you'll make someone have a sad...
dionysus
Oct 2012
#70
Assange makes me have "a sad" for all the suckers who've forked over $$$$$.
Tarheel_Dem
Oct 2012
#95
Actually, yes. There is proof that Assange did not merely recieive, but facilitated theft.
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#99
What do you think a government should do to prevent military secrets from being stolen?
randome
Oct 2012
#62
"By longstanding first amendment tradition, third parties such as news organisations — even..."
Hissyspit
Oct 2012
#96
I can't imagine what you think is illegal about Paypal not allowing payments to Wikileaks
mythology
Oct 2012
#103
Fascinating observation, given that the 'author' simply linked to an article and provided snippets.
randome
Oct 2012
#43
I don't know this for a fact, so don't come at me. This is speculation, some of it.
MADem
Oct 2012
#80
I truly think the writer of the article is carrying water for elements of Anonymous.
MADem
Oct 2012
#90
I have a proposal ~ let's call a truce, let this thread die, and get President Obama re-elected.
Zorra
Oct 2012
#47
The characterization is a tiny part of the article, a hook--the big news is on page 2. nt
MADem
Oct 2012
#83
As I've said elsewhere, I believe this correspondent is carrying water for elements of Anonymous.
MADem
Oct 2012
#111
Assange may be a blowhard, but at least he's doing something helpful via WikiLeaks.
Odin2005
Oct 2012
#68
Wait leaking classified Gitmo documents is like asking for Obama college records?
Puregonzo1188
Oct 2012
#84