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LudwigPastorius

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40. It's called "plausible deniability" and it is to prevent the escalation into nuclear war.

Tue Mar 8, 2022, 11:31 PM

Mar 2022

I'm not a lawyer, but the Pentagon has a shitload of them, as well as strategists. Planes launching from a NATO base into Ukraine, that fired on Russian planes en route, would be a direct act of war.

I think the Pentagon got this one right.

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Ted Lieu and Adam Kinzinger on the Pentagon's refusal to transfer MiG jets from Poland to Ukraine. [View all] femmedem Mar 2022 OP

W.T.F. mainer Mar 2022 #1

As am I.. Deuxcents Mar 2022 #4

Here we go again. Gonna hear how weak Dems are. Lunch Putin in the face while we can. Pepsidog Mar 2022 #56

I'm with Ted. Always. dchill Mar 2022 #2

One of our best. femmedem Mar 2022 #5

I agree with you, too. dchill Mar 2022 #6

: onecaliberal Mar 2022 #3

K&R! n/t AntiFascist Mar 2022 #7

Come on..let's get this done PortTack Mar 2022 #8

Who at the Pentagon made this decision? Budi Mar 2022 #9

Someone in the pocket of Russian oligarch? n/t AntiFascist Mar 2022 #10

Flynn's brother I bet uponit7771 Mar 2022 #13

Flynn's brother maybe? nt woodsprite Mar 2022 #51

The White House former9thward Mar 2022 #22

Sounds as tho the Pentagon had a major decision in this move. Budi Mar 2022 #32

why the US? Takket Mar 2022 #11

Too much risk IronLionZion Mar 2022 #29

Is this what's holding up the show? KS Toronado Mar 2022 #49

Joe, pick up the phone, order them to do it and do it NOW Eliot Rosewater Mar 2022 #12

+1, uponit7771 Mar 2022 #14

I think he will jcgoldie Mar 2022 #16

Poland stepped-up, but they want U.S. skin in the game. Pentagon says nyet! nt Cognitive_Resonance Mar 2022 #15

"Pentagon says "nyet". " Means what exactly?.... Budi Mar 2022 #36

Looks like Poland called a bluff. DoD wasn't onboard. Unclear what's really going on. nt Cognitive_Resonance Mar 2022 #45

when I was in the service , D.O.D.-- dept .of dumbells !! monkeyman1 Mar 2022 #54

I want to hear what Lieu's and Kinzinger's "substantive rationale" is gulliver Mar 2022 #17

It could be that both Biden, Pentagon are playing this for their one man audience. ancianita Mar 2022 #18

I have to agree with this gay texan Mar 2022 #24

The very strength of our strategy is that we play as if we don't strategize. ancianita Mar 2022 #35

I tend to agree... kentuck Mar 2022 #50

what's going on, Pentagon doesn't want to share jets with Poland? AlexSFCA Mar 2022 #19

I agree 100% with Ted and Adam. Stop giving in to Putin. sinkingfeeling Mar 2022 #20

You know Putin has nukes, right? Beaverhausen Mar 2022 #21

You know we got nukes, right? It's who strikes fastest and first. HE better not give US an excuse. ancianita Mar 2022 #37

At this point I wonder if Putin's nukes might blow up in his face like the war so far. Pepsidog Mar 2022 #57

They have more missiles.... SergeStorms Mar 2022 #58

More isn't faster. We have more anti-missile power. His are circled around Moscow. ancianita Mar 2022 #60

My understanding of this is that Poland is sending the MIGs and we will PatrickforB Mar 2022 #23

The real problem here is: James48 Mar 2022 #25

Yeah. Well you might be explaining their thinking, but seriously, ancianita Mar 2022 #38

Pretending we are not at war is the only thing preventing us from actually being at war. LudwigPastorius Mar 2022 #42

I hear you. Point taken. But now Putin's daring the world to stop his war. ancianita Mar 2022 #43

"as Ukraine goes, so the EU goes." LudwigPastorius Mar 2022 #46

Like I said. ancianita Mar 2022 #52

Just do it. Joinfortmill Mar 2022 #26

This could be a little dicey...... Hulk Mar 2022 #27

Can't we put them on Trucks? nt Gore1FL Mar 2022 #28

Russia will hit them with air strikes while on the ground IronLionZion Mar 2022 #31

Loose Lips Sink Ships DallasNE Mar 2022 #30

Yup. A misstep in communication, & the situation cannot afford that right now. Budi Mar 2022 #34

Tomorrow, Jen P should say: " Shit. A bunch of Ukrainian ... Whiskeytide Mar 2022 #33

It's not impossible to think boyedav1969 Mar 2022 #39

It's called "plausible deniability" and it is to prevent the escalation into nuclear war. LudwigPastorius Mar 2022 #40

The solution is: kentuck Mar 2022 #41

Well that means that we'd have a NATO-Russia war. Would China stand by? Maybe. ancianita Mar 2022 #44

The US can't just "immediately bring Ukraine into NATO". Mariana Mar 2022 #64

Why the fuck are operational national security matters being spouted all over fucking twitter??? Shanti Shanti Shanti Mar 2022 #47

IMHO, if they are playing this out in public, there is most likely another scenario going on vsrazdem Mar 2022 #48

I heard someone say today that drones would better serve radical noodle Mar 2022 #59

Just my opinion but I believe its smoke and mirrors here Cheezoholic Mar 2022 #53

K & R. Thank You. Yours is the only sensible answer there is. Budi Mar 2022 #62

Consult fast DFW Mar 2022 #55

My guess liberal_patriot_md Mar 2022 #61

Maybe the Pentagon is using the media to hide what they're really doing from the Republicans. halfulglas Mar 2022 #63