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StClone

(11,869 posts)
65. You exist
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 11:55 PM
Mar 2022

This was not a philosophical ruse.

You exist because you leave traces (as do UFOs), you can be photographed (as can UFOs), you are seen (as are UFOs), and you cause physical effects (as do UFOs). There are many well-documented cases by the most serious of authorities you can find which establish the above. You can disavow existence for lack of being fully convinced by the level of evidence. But there is a slow turning by Scientists to see that there is something we are aware of which can not be explained in the UFOs experience.

I was ambivalent as to the reality of UFOs until recently, then I got into reading some highly credentialed investigators in the UFO subject notably Jacques Vallée. Check his writings out. Also, after the substantial Navy pilot's sightings were released I took a renewed interest in the subject. And lastly, I have seen several odd things which I felt were explained satisfactorily. Except one: A very large stationary line of four large oval lights flashing silently close by in the night on two occasions. It could have been a military refueling exercise-but with no jet noise?

Another author is Harvey Rutledge. In 1973 there were many UFO reports around Piedmont, MO. A local Ph.D. Physicist Harley Rutledge from Southeast Missouri State put together a team, a plan, and equipment, to study the objects for years in a Scientific way (as possible with the elusive subject). His book is a little known research book into the subject Project Identification:: Harley Rutledge: Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming: Internet Archive https://archive.org/details/rutledge-project-identification/page/85/mode/1up

So if we eliminate the kooks, the hoaxes, the misidentification. What are we left with? Nothing? Have you read the military's account of UFOs shutting down nuclear missile systems. No? How about Jacques Vallée acquiring nearly a half dozen materials derived from alleged UFOs which have been thoroughly tested by the most advanced techniques and found to have inexplicable properties as to purity and construction?

How about the "nuts" at Stanford University calling for further investigation into the UFO topic because of the evidence presented: https://news.stanford.edu/pr/98/980629ufostudy.html

Two last things:

1. Search for Ruppelt's free audiobook on YouTube "The Report on UFOs" and give it a listen.
2. Vallée posits whatever UFOs are they are likely non-extraterrestrial and are working to influence our belief system.








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Aliens are not visiting earth. Waste of money! Nt USALiberal Mar 2022 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author EYESORE 9001 Mar 2022 #2
Hey, Space Force has to fight somebody Clash City Rocker Mar 2022 #3
It's still a thing EYESORE 9001 Mar 2022 #4
Human DNA is only 250K years old! We are the Aliens! Get over it! MartyTheGreek Mar 2022 #5
Sigh Johnny2X2X Mar 2022 #6
Go outside CrackityJones75 Mar 2022 #9
Do you mean those things in the sky that spray chemtrails? Oneironaut Mar 2022 #10
What in the hell does this mean? You don't think it's possible??? USALiberal Mar 2022 #11
What I mean is CrackityJones75 Mar 2022 #22
How many passengers on jets get UFO photos??? USALiberal Mar 2022 #29
UFO true believers want it both ways Orrex Mar 2022 #30
Agreed. Here's my point. CrackityJones75 Mar 2022 #50
Because society at large equates "UFO" with "alien spacecraft" Orrex Mar 2022 #55
I mean you could just let people believe what they believe? CrackityJones75 Mar 2022 #57
See, your question implies that I'm part of "THE COVERUP" Orrex Mar 2022 #60
No it doesn't CrackityJones75 Mar 2022 #67
Then why did you ask if I have some "official designation?" Orrex Mar 2022 #68
Do you? CrackityJones75 Mar 2022 #69
Because I find bullshit distasteful Orrex Mar 2022 #71
It isn't. I was just wondering. CrackityJones75 Mar 2022 #80
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #81
+1000, no proof at all! Nt USALiberal Mar 2022 #13
Also is it possible to care about than one thing at once? CrackityJones75 Mar 2022 #23
... Javaman Mar 2022 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #7
Make believe is fun! Nt USALiberal Mar 2022 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #14
What is your best evidence of proof??? USALiberal Mar 2022 #15
Agree....Denial is too easy HipChick Mar 2022 #25
Recently, highly trained fighter pilots... StClone Mar 2022 #34
This is 60 years old. Nt USALiberal Mar 2022 #35
Lord did even read WHY you start at the beginning to learn things??? StClone Mar 2022 #39
We can't let random unidentified things fly around in protected airspace. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #17
Send me your best example of these UFOS! USALiberal Mar 2022 #18
here are a few Beaverhausen Mar 2022 #31
How about something that's not all decades old?? USALiberal Mar 2022 #36
Why? Beaverhausen Mar 2022 #43
It is important to remember edhopper Mar 2022 #8
+1000! USALiberal Mar 2022 #16
Yep The Revolution Mar 2022 #20
Pilots flying billion dollar planes, trained, tested, experienced, are called to protect our country StClone Mar 2022 #38
Pilots flying billion dollar planes edhopper Mar 2022 #40
Those mistakes do not negate UFOs StClone Mar 2022 #42
There are not tens of thousands od "solid" UFO reports edhopper Mar 2022 #44
There are. StClone Mar 2022 #48
You have a rather charitable definition of "solid," in that case Orrex Mar 2022 #61
How do I know you exist. StClone Mar 2022 #63
Tell you what: skip to the end of that chapter in Philosophy 101 and tell me what you find. Orrex Mar 2022 #64
You exist StClone Mar 2022 #65
I'm not going to engage in a skeet shoot with you Orrex Mar 2022 #70
Fine, you have come to immovable position that little or no evidence exists. StClone Mar 2022 #72
Your statement is false Orrex Mar 2022 #74
Island of bliss StClone Mar 2022 #75
Yes, you true believers have lived there for centuries Orrex Mar 2022 #76
Can you prove that? StClone Mar 2022 #77
Yes Orrex Mar 2022 #78
So you assert... StClone Mar 2022 #79
Lol, nice try on Klass!! USALiberal Mar 2022 #46
Klass had a needed place in finding flaws in UFO reports. StClone Mar 2022 #51
There are more eyewitness to and more evidence of UFO's... MiHale Mar 2022 #19
Amen! CrackityJones75 Mar 2022 #24
No aliens have visited Earth edhopper Mar 2022 #45
I'm atheist, god is a myth, I'm in a minority MiHale Mar 2022 #58
OK edhopper Mar 2022 #59
"Paranormal" would describe belief in God(s) and ghosts and miracles (i.e. religion). lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #73
I gotta ask... grumpyduck Mar 2022 #21
Logical fallacy Johnny2X2X Mar 2022 #26
Yup, logical fallacy. grumpyduck Mar 2022 #32
In this case edhopper Mar 2022 #41
Okay, I'll bite. grumpyduck Mar 2022 #54
This is irrelevant. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2022 #56
I didn't say it confirmed it. grumpyduck Mar 2022 #62
It's hard to unsee what you have seen Achilleaze Mar 2022 #27
It has supercilious overtones EYESORE 9001 Mar 2022 #28
Indeed. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #37
I, for one, welcome our alien overlords Shanti Shanti Shanti Mar 2022 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Mar 2022 #47
When we see lights in the sky frogmarch Mar 2022 #52
True! So why lights on an "alien craft." StClone Mar 2022 #53
None of the space aliens I've met need space ships to get around. hunter Mar 2022 #66
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