Ted Lieu and Adam Kinzinger on the Pentagon's refusal to transfer MiG jets from Poland to Ukraine.

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53. Just my opinion but I believe its smoke and mirrors here

I mean what Mr. Lieu said. How in the hell did the west get all those munitions into Ukraine in the last week?

I watch a lot of these ADS-B "radar" sites because I'm an av-geek. Nearly every day theres a couple NATO Blackhawks, C-130's, Ospreys etc that get within 10 miles of the Ukrainian border and go transponders off dark only to pop back up an hour or two later. ADS-B needs to be taken with a grain of salt because if we can see it on a website surely the Russians see it. There were no less than 5 NATO electronic warfare planes hugging the entire Ukranian border yesterday, surely slamming, jamming and searching for Russian forces land and air. Once again a grain of salt. Are some of these diversionary tactics? Hide and seek? The Russians have begun flying their own version of AWACS out of SW Belarus. Someone else on DU mentioned they saw KC135 tankers flying refuling missions but for what they didnt know. Well we just "found out" a few days ago that the Harry S. Truman carrier battle group was positioned in the North Aegean Sea and were flying sorties along the SW border of Ukraine. Plenty of tanker activity there with nothing else showing up. Been a few B52 passes along the border then they shut off their public transponders, not a common aircraft over Europe.

My point is this stuff is what anyone can see. Whose to say this whole Mig thing is what anyone can see but the real shits going on we cant see. Once again, letting Russia know what NATO "can" do and keeping them guessing what NATO "is" doing. I'd almost bet those MIG's and maybe more are already in country. While most of the C-17 and AN-400 supply flights are going into Rzeszów where does that stuff go from there? Could be anywhere along the border. Could be Polish farmers loading shit up on their tractors at night and crossing giving them to Ukrainian farmers on their tractors. How much of these armaments are going through Moldova? We just don't know. And if the Pentagon is playing the media and us to hide whats really going on that's their job, be it for a righteous conflict such as this or for not so righteous conflicts we've been involved with in the past. Deception and secrecy to convolute and confuse the enemy is their job. And members of congress are great tools to use in that deception.