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45. I told you. I understand Calvinist beliefs and I reject them. n/t

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Pope Francis: "rivers of blood" are flowing in Ukraine. He's sending two Cardinals [View all] pnwmom Mar 2022 OP

Dicastery - always something new to learn - had to look it up. keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #1

Ditto. 72 year old RC here and I never heard of it! CurtEastPoint Mar 2022 #5

At first I figured he was sending two hot shots for the typical 'Bless 'em and forget 'em'. keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #7

How dare the pope question gawd's will??? Gawd is causing everything. He's MYSTEEEEEEERIOUS!!!! lindysalsagal Mar 2022 #2

Catholics don't believe in predestination. Everything that happens is NOT God's will, pnwmom Mar 2022 #8

Thank you nt XanaDUer2 Mar 2022 #9

There is no free will. There is only allowed will. All evil is pre-approved by God. keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #12

That is not the Catholic viewpoint. If God is all powerful pnwmom Mar 2022 #18

You prove my point exactly keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #19

An act is only done FREELY if it's NOT predestined or determined by God. pnwmom Mar 2022 #20

God knows all - past, present, and the future. keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #21

You just made an assumption based on your own religious beliefs, or critique thereof. pnwmom Mar 2022 #22

So to you, God is not all-powerful nor all knowing. keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #23

No, that's not what I'm saying. This isn't about the constructs of physics or biology. pnwmom Mar 2022 #24

I was taught that God is all-powerful and knows all, past, present, and future. keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #25

What you were taught rests on a scientific and linear construction of past, present, and future. pnwmom Mar 2022 #26

Love your long winded explanation that shows a weak God that does not know all and that science is m keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #27

That's not what I said. I'm sorry you're not capable of following my reasoning, pnwmom Mar 2022 #28

I believe that God is all-powerful and all-knowing; past, present. and future. keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #29

I believe that the human construct of past, present, and future may be an illusion. pnwmom Mar 2022 #31

So, your answer is "No". keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #32

I've said all along I'm not a Calvinist, and the disagreement between Calvinists like you pnwmom Mar 2022 #33

Do all Catholics think that God is weak and incapable of understanding your concept of linear time? keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #34

I never said God was "weak." That was your conclusion based on your logic, not mine. pnwmom Mar 2022 #35

You're doing fine. keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #36

I don't accept your Calvinist definitions, so your conclusions are irrelevant. n/t pnwmom Mar 2022 #37

You're still doing fine. keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #38

Your logic based on your definitions and your personal understanding of God. pnwmom Mar 2022 #39

You refuse to acknowledge that God is all-powerful/all-knowing. keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #40

I believe God is all powerful and all knowing and God has given people free will. pnwmom Mar 2022 #41

Was that so tough that it took so long to acknowledge keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #42

No, I don't accept your assertion that God is bound by human constructs of time, pnwmom Mar 2022 #43

Doggone! Now you're backing down on believing that God is all-powerful and all-knowing. keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #44

I told you. I understand Calvinist beliefs and I reject them. n/t pnwmom Mar 2022 #45

Not signing on to this. AngryOldDem Mar 2022 #10

Catholics don't believe in predestination obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #11

Only two? milestogo Mar 2022 #3

Maybe he hopes to be rid of these two. pandr32 Mar 2022 #4

They can speak the language? shrike3 Mar 2022 #30

Hope they stay safe. Pope Francis, try talking to the head of Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #6

I agree, although I don't think they recognize him. Kingofalldems Mar 2022 #14

I feel better already Ron Obvious Mar 2022 #13

Sarcasm aside, there are many devout Catholics in the war zone who will Raven Mar 2022 #15

Honourable sentiments from Pope Francis anamnua Mar 2022 #16

He, and other popular figures, can command millions of hearts and minds. pnwmom Mar 2022 #17