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MADem

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11. The guys who wear that mask you display in your avatar

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 03:38 PM

Oct 2012

have dumped Assange, owing to his ego. "The one-man Julian Assange show" is how they termed it. Oh, and his constant begging for donations, too. And inserting, in essence, a paywall in front of the wiki docs. Anonymous is pissed, I'd say. I wouldn't be surprised if the writer of that piece was an Anonymous enthusiast and NOT a freeper.

There's a video at this link as well as a text story.

http://mashable.com/2012/10/13/anonymous-wikileaks/

Is this a freeper site, too?

http://www.wikileaks-forum.com/index.php/topic,15316.0.html#.UIu0E-slo4w.twitter

Or this?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/oct/12/anonymous-distances-itself-wikileaks

I think "where it ends" is that Anonymous--which is where Assange got most of his juice--has kicked the white haired embassy denizen out of their "Circle of Friends." Unfollowed! Unfriended! Alas, alack! Hopefully the Ecuadorian President won't turn him in for a favorable trade agreement...but you never know...

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Julian Assange is the tech world's Donald Trump [View all] SidDithers Oct 2012 OP

Very appropriate comparison. randome Oct 2012 #1

YUP! graham4anything Oct 2012 #2

Um, nope. Hissyspit Oct 2012 #16

News flash - Trump didn't ask for Obama's BC again. n/t Jumping John Oct 2012 #3

HA! I saw "cringeley" in the url and I thought that might be a new meme working off MADem Oct 2012 #4

I especially liked this part... SidDithers Oct 2012 #8

And you can be sure that they'll stop reading before page 2! MADem Oct 2012 #9

Um, I knew about the Anonymous kerfuffle weeks ago Hissyspit Oct 2012 #17

This is not a "kerfluffle." It's a divorce. Assange gets the house, but MADem Oct 2012 #73

Sounds like "Anonymous" profits from the deal... AntiFascist Oct 2012 #91

I am not clear on how they intend to do this (not a geek by any stretch) MADem Oct 2012 #93

Mother Theresa was a right-wing authoritarian misery-enabling a-hole Kurovski Oct 2012 #56

Except that Assange actually has done and is doing things that are actually newsworthy. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #5

Silly, shallow analogy. Bad hair? Is Cringely a staff writer at Cosmo? Zorra Oct 2012 #6

If I had to guess, I'd wager he's a member in good standing at "ANONYMOUS." nt MADem Oct 2012 #12

Yep ~ I bet he even has one of these ~ Zorra Oct 2012 #18

Well, he certainly knows the path of plenty of documents. MADem Oct 2012 #20

The 'shallow analogy' is yours. randome Oct 2012 #14

I think many haven't read to page 2, or even clicked the link. MADem Oct 2012 #21

My department where I work did exceptionally well this year. randome Oct 2012 #28

The Anonymous people, apparently, are starting up their own "Wikileaks on Steroids." MADem Oct 2012 #39

'Mahem' sounds too 'anarchy' for my taste. randome Oct 2012 #40

I think they are going for the " massive distribution with no vetting model," I'm afraid. MADem Oct 2012 #48

Or, Anonymous has become infiltrated by those supporting the MIC... AntiFascist Oct 2012 #32

You're right about it being impossible to know who is Anonymous. randome Oct 2012 #35

I'm sure that happened a long time ago--in fact, we know it did. MADem Oct 2012 #52

Perhaps it would be a compromise... AntiFascist Oct 2012 #55

It would be a fine solution--but I just don't see that happening. I think your latter scenario is MADem Oct 2012 #72

How would you know? Fumesucker Oct 2012 #22

You're right. I don't know. I'm just going by what I think. randome Oct 2012 #27

Oh, come on. No, it's compounded by the fact that Zorra Oct 2012 #23

Yeah, well, I'm not afraid of my opinions. randome Oct 2012 #26

Don't berate the messenger, now. MADem Oct 2012 #76

no PowerToThePeople Oct 2012 #7

The guys who wear that mask you display in your avatar MADem Oct 2012 #11

A few of things PowerToThePeople Oct 2012 #36

Hmmm. You do know that when you wear the costume, people do think you do the job associated with MADem Oct 2012 #41

Massive false equivalence. Hissyspit Oct 2012 #10

The writer is full of shit lunatica Oct 2012 #13

What lies did he expose? randome Oct 2012 #15

Cover ups and secrets are lies lunatica Oct 2012 #25

You were asked for examples, not platitudes. Show us the "lies" that were exposed. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #29

Yes, lies, but you all are really playing a semantics game. Hissyspit Oct 2012 #63

Knowing the extent of civilian casualties is, I agree, worth knowing and leaking. randome Oct 2012 #81

Again, games with semantics. Hissyspit Oct 2012 #86

Tell me what's changed. I'm willing to listen. randome Oct 2012 #88

don't make fun of the sweet bebe jesus assange, you'll make someone have a sad... dionysus Oct 2012 #70

Assange makes me have "a sad" for all the suckers who've forked over $$$$$. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #95

bein' sad makes me angry. being angry makes me feel like.. boxin'! dionysus Oct 2012 #100

Dion, I'm glad you still have that "fightin" spirit. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #101

Yep. 99Forever Oct 2012 #61

So Assange is a lying, greedy, racist SomethingFishy Oct 2012 #19

Cenk: @Wikileaks� Julian Assange should be your hero Go Vols Oct 2012 #24

That is over two months old. Things, apparently, have changed. nt MADem Oct 2012 #53

How (not) to destroy Wikileaks: where it all began� Hissyspit Oct 2012 #30

Wikileaks stole and published military secrets. randome Oct 2012 #31

Stole? Hissyspit Oct 2012 #67

Manning did with Assange's help. randome Oct 2012 #77

"With Assange's help" Hissyspit Oct 2012 #82

Fine. Assange was a fence receiving stolen goods. About the same thing. randome Oct 2012 #85

Wow, you've really managed to villify Assange... AntiFascist Oct 2012 #92

Actually, yes. There is proof that Assange did not merely recieive, but facilitated theft. msanthrope Oct 2012 #99

Yeah, I read all that. Hissyspit Oct 2012 #108

Um...no. As this was evidence offered at the article 32 hearing in msanthrope Oct 2012 #110

The directive was issued by the Global MIC... Zorra Oct 2012 #38

I'd say those comparisons also fit the author of the OP whatchamacallit Oct 2012 #33

+a Brazillion!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Puglover Oct 2012 #34

Isn't that the truth? Change has come Oct 2012 #37

... SidDithers Oct 2012 #42

Sid!! Scurrilous Oct 2012 #59

Yes, it's all hilarious. Hissyspit Oct 2012 #60

What do you think a government should do to prevent military secrets from being stolen? randome Oct 2012 #62

There are plenty of things they shouldn't do. Hissyspit Oct 2012 #65

Like what? randome Oct 2012 #78

"By longstanding first amendment tradition, third parties such as news organisations � even..." Hissyspit Oct 2012 #96

That does not apply when stealing classified military documents. randome Oct 2012 #98

Wow, not one valid defense. Hissyspit Oct 2012 #107

I can't imagine what you think is illegal about Paypal not allowing payments to Wikileaks mythology Oct 2012 #103

Read: Hissyspit Oct 2012 #106

Fascinating observation, given that the 'author' simply linked to an article and provided snippets. randome Oct 2012 #43

+1 SixString Oct 2012 #44

Donald Trump is a right wing blowhard argiel1234 Oct 2012 #45

Read page 2 of the linked article. You'll know more about him, and his MADem Oct 2012 #46

I read the second page in detail again argiel1234 Oct 2012 #50

My understanding from the article is this: MADem Oct 2012 #71

I get your point argiel1234 Oct 2012 #74

I don't know this for a fact, so don't come at me. This is speculation, some of it. MADem Oct 2012 #80

Assange may very well be an egoist, criminal, etc. argiel1234 Oct 2012 #89

I truly think the writer of the article is carrying water for elements of Anonymous. MADem Oct 2012 #90

I have a proposal ~ let's call a truce, let this thread die, and get President Obama re-elected. Zorra Oct 2012 #47

Ever see the 1997 movie, Event Horizon? randome Oct 2012 #51

agreed. we are in a no distractfion zone grantcart Oct 2012 #58

didn't he try to compare himself to victims of Benghazi attack ? JI7 Oct 2012 #49

Invalid as hell - in my college Logic course it's termed; upi402 Oct 2012 #54

+1 Kurovski Oct 2012 #57

Or to give the proper Latin: Argumentum ad Equum Merdem. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #69

I read what you did there. Hissyspit Oct 2012 #75

Like my translation of "argument by horseshit", do you? Odin2005 Oct 2012 #79

The characterization is a tiny part of the article, a hook--the big news is on page 2. nt MADem Oct 2012 #83

This is from Page 2: Hissyspit Oct 2012 #94

I'm talking about the piece, not the reader comments. MADem Oct 2012 #97

Reasonable thoughts upi402 Oct 2012 #104

You have a point there. randome Oct 2012 #105

As I've said elsewhere, I believe this correspondent is carrying water for elements of Anonymous. MADem Oct 2012 #111

I know you were. Hissyspit Oct 2012 #109

DU Rec and kick nt RomneyLies Oct 2012 #64

Why? Hissyspit Oct 2012 #66

Assange may be a blowhard, but at least he's doing something helpful via WikiLeaks. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #68

Wait leaking classified Gitmo documents is like asking for Obama college records? Puregonzo1188 Oct 2012 #84

I think the suggestion is that they are both relentless attention seekers. MADem Oct 2012 #87

Nice two-minute hate. It brought out most of the usual suspects. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2012 #102