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randome

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35. You're right about it being impossible to know who is Anonymous.

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 04:58 PM

Oct 2012

It's the same problem with the Internet in general -trying to be both private and public at the same time. Which is why security issues will NEVER be foolproof.

And why we will never know if 'Anonymous' is THAT 'Anonymous' or some OTHER 'Anonymous'.

By being a private group with a public face, they have screwed themselves, I think.

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Julian Assange is the tech world's Donald Trump [View all] SidDithers Oct 2012 OP

Very appropriate comparison. randome Oct 2012 #1

YUP! graham4anything Oct 2012 #2

Um, nope. Hissyspit Oct 2012 #16

News flash - Trump didn't ask for Obama's BC again. n/t Jumping John Oct 2012 #3

HA! I saw "cringeley" in the url and I thought that might be a new meme working off MADem Oct 2012 #4

I especially liked this part... SidDithers Oct 2012 #8

And you can be sure that they'll stop reading before page 2! MADem Oct 2012 #9

Um, I knew about the Anonymous kerfuffle weeks ago Hissyspit Oct 2012 #17

This is not a "kerfluffle." It's a divorce. Assange gets the house, but MADem Oct 2012 #73

Sounds like "Anonymous" profits from the deal... AntiFascist Oct 2012 #91

I am not clear on how they intend to do this (not a geek by any stretch) MADem Oct 2012 #93

Mother Theresa was a right-wing authoritarian misery-enabling a-hole Kurovski Oct 2012 #56

Except that Assange actually has done and is doing things that are actually newsworthy. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #5

Silly, shallow analogy. Bad hair? Is Cringely a staff writer at Cosmo? Zorra Oct 2012 #6

If I had to guess, I'd wager he's a member in good standing at "ANONYMOUS." nt MADem Oct 2012 #12

Yep ~ I bet he even has one of these ~ Zorra Oct 2012 #18

Well, he certainly knows the path of plenty of documents. MADem Oct 2012 #20

The 'shallow analogy' is yours. randome Oct 2012 #14

I think many haven't read to page 2, or even clicked the link. MADem Oct 2012 #21

My department where I work did exceptionally well this year. randome Oct 2012 #28

The Anonymous people, apparently, are starting up their own "Wikileaks on Steroids." MADem Oct 2012 #39

'Mahem' sounds too 'anarchy' for my taste. randome Oct 2012 #40

I think they are going for the " massive distribution with no vetting model," I'm afraid. MADem Oct 2012 #48

Or, Anonymous has become infiltrated by those supporting the MIC... AntiFascist Oct 2012 #32

You're right about it being impossible to know who is Anonymous. randome Oct 2012 #35

I'm sure that happened a long time ago--in fact, we know it did. MADem Oct 2012 #52

Perhaps it would be a compromise... AntiFascist Oct 2012 #55

It would be a fine solution--but I just don't see that happening. I think your latter scenario is MADem Oct 2012 #72

How would you know? Fumesucker Oct 2012 #22

You're right. I don't know. I'm just going by what I think. randome Oct 2012 #27

Oh, come on. No, it's compounded by the fact that Zorra Oct 2012 #23

Yeah, well, I'm not afraid of my opinions. randome Oct 2012 #26

Don't berate the messenger, now. MADem Oct 2012 #76

no PowerToThePeople Oct 2012 #7

The guys who wear that mask you display in your avatar MADem Oct 2012 #11

A few of things PowerToThePeople Oct 2012 #36

Hmmm. You do know that when you wear the costume, people do think you do the job associated with MADem Oct 2012 #41

Massive false equivalence. Hissyspit Oct 2012 #10

The writer is full of shit lunatica Oct 2012 #13

What lies did he expose? randome Oct 2012 #15

Cover ups and secrets are lies lunatica Oct 2012 #25

You were asked for examples, not platitudes. Show us the "lies" that were exposed. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #29

Yes, lies, but you all are really playing a semantics game. Hissyspit Oct 2012 #63

Knowing the extent of civilian casualties is, I agree, worth knowing and leaking. randome Oct 2012 #81

Again, games with semantics. Hissyspit Oct 2012 #86

Tell me what's changed. I'm willing to listen. randome Oct 2012 #88

don't make fun of the sweet bebe jesus assange, you'll make someone have a sad... dionysus Oct 2012 #70

Assange makes me have "a sad" for all the suckers who've forked over $$$$$. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #95

bein' sad makes me angry. being angry makes me feel like.. boxin'! dionysus Oct 2012 #100

Dion, I'm glad you still have that "fightin" spirit. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #101

Yep. 99Forever Oct 2012 #61

So Assange is a lying, greedy, racist SomethingFishy Oct 2012 #19

Cenk: @Wikileaks� Julian Assange should be your hero Go Vols Oct 2012 #24

That is over two months old. Things, apparently, have changed. nt MADem Oct 2012 #53

How (not) to destroy Wikileaks: where it all began� Hissyspit Oct 2012 #30

Wikileaks stole and published military secrets. randome Oct 2012 #31

Stole? Hissyspit Oct 2012 #67

Manning did with Assange's help. randome Oct 2012 #77

"With Assange's help" Hissyspit Oct 2012 #82

Fine. Assange was a fence receiving stolen goods. About the same thing. randome Oct 2012 #85

Wow, you've really managed to villify Assange... AntiFascist Oct 2012 #92

Actually, yes. There is proof that Assange did not merely recieive, but facilitated theft. msanthrope Oct 2012 #99

Yeah, I read all that. Hissyspit Oct 2012 #108

Um...no. As this was evidence offered at the article 32 hearing in msanthrope Oct 2012 #110

The directive was issued by the Global MIC... Zorra Oct 2012 #38

I'd say those comparisons also fit the author of the OP whatchamacallit Oct 2012 #33

+a Brazillion!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Puglover Oct 2012 #34

Isn't that the truth? Change has come Oct 2012 #37

... SidDithers Oct 2012 #42

Sid!! Scurrilous Oct 2012 #59

Yes, it's all hilarious. Hissyspit Oct 2012 #60

What do you think a government should do to prevent military secrets from being stolen? randome Oct 2012 #62

There are plenty of things they shouldn't do. Hissyspit Oct 2012 #65

Like what? randome Oct 2012 #78

"By longstanding first amendment tradition, third parties such as news organisations � even..." Hissyspit Oct 2012 #96

That does not apply when stealing classified military documents. randome Oct 2012 #98

Wow, not one valid defense. Hissyspit Oct 2012 #107

I can't imagine what you think is illegal about Paypal not allowing payments to Wikileaks mythology Oct 2012 #103

Read: Hissyspit Oct 2012 #106

Fascinating observation, given that the 'author' simply linked to an article and provided snippets. randome Oct 2012 #43

+1 SixString Oct 2012 #44

Donald Trump is a right wing blowhard argiel1234 Oct 2012 #45

Read page 2 of the linked article. You'll know more about him, and his MADem Oct 2012 #46

I read the second page in detail again argiel1234 Oct 2012 #50

My understanding from the article is this: MADem Oct 2012 #71

I get your point argiel1234 Oct 2012 #74

I don't know this for a fact, so don't come at me. This is speculation, some of it. MADem Oct 2012 #80

Assange may very well be an egoist, criminal, etc. argiel1234 Oct 2012 #89

I truly think the writer of the article is carrying water for elements of Anonymous. MADem Oct 2012 #90

I have a proposal ~ let's call a truce, let this thread die, and get President Obama re-elected. Zorra Oct 2012 #47

Ever see the 1997 movie, Event Horizon? randome Oct 2012 #51

agreed. we are in a no distractfion zone grantcart Oct 2012 #58

didn't he try to compare himself to victims of Benghazi attack ? JI7 Oct 2012 #49

Invalid as hell - in my college Logic course it's termed; upi402 Oct 2012 #54

+1 Kurovski Oct 2012 #57

Or to give the proper Latin: Argumentum ad Equum Merdem. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #69

I read what you did there. Hissyspit Oct 2012 #75

Like my translation of "argument by horseshit", do you? Odin2005 Oct 2012 #79

The characterization is a tiny part of the article, a hook--the big news is on page 2. nt MADem Oct 2012 #83

This is from Page 2: Hissyspit Oct 2012 #94

I'm talking about the piece, not the reader comments. MADem Oct 2012 #97

Reasonable thoughts upi402 Oct 2012 #104

You have a point there. randome Oct 2012 #105

As I've said elsewhere, I believe this correspondent is carrying water for elements of Anonymous. MADem Oct 2012 #111

I know you were. Hissyspit Oct 2012 #109

DU Rec and kick nt RomneyLies Oct 2012 #64

Why? Hissyspit Oct 2012 #66

Assange may be a blowhard, but at least he's doing something helpful via WikiLeaks. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #68

Wait leaking classified Gitmo documents is like asking for Obama college records? Puregonzo1188 Oct 2012 #84

I think the suggestion is that they are both relentless attention seekers. MADem Oct 2012 #87

Nice two-minute hate. It brought out most of the usual suspects. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2012 #102