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In reply to the discussion: NATO must go to war against Putin now, with the US and Biden... [View all]Fiendish Thingy
(24,576 posts)While I acknowledge the risk that Putin could respond with nukes if NATO forces entered Ukraine (announcing their role as strictly defensive), I reject that it is a foregone conclusion. The same question youre asking me must be forced upon Putins inner circle- are they willing to sacrifice their families?
What I do assert as certain is, if Putin is not stopped in Ukraine NOW, he will continue to seek to expand his empire, including into NATO.
I dont expect NATO and the other nations will be able to sustain the sanctions past this summer. As winter approaches, with both energy and wheat shortages, I think the sanctions will crumble. Putin doesnt give a fuck about the hardships the Russian people will go through. Hes reshuffling his inner circle of military and intelligence toadies as we speak, because he knows as the sanctions take hold, the greater chance someone will try to depose him.
Strategically, if Ukraine falls (or is bombed into complete rubble from border to border), then Putin will likely redirect his efforts to the 2024 election. If Trump is successfully reinstalled, you can bet the first order of business will be withdrawal from NATO.
And then, Putin takes the Baltic states, maybe Poland. France and the UK would be the only remaining nuclear powers in NATO, with less than a tenth of Russias warheads between them. Do you think France and the UK will engage in a nuclear war with Russia without the US?
Like I said, NATO will be at war with Putin, the only choice is will it be on NATOs terms, or Putins?