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Caliman73

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105. You know that is the same question they ask about us right?

Mon Mar 14, 2022, 12:23 PM

Mar 2022

Simply, because it is difficult to recognize that you are being lied to and manipulated when you are right in the middle of it. When you are being manipulated, the manipulator isn't telling you, "Hey, I am going to manipulate you now." They start by making you feel special, you are the only "smart" ones who see past the lies of the "liberal media". They get you invested emotionally by making you angry and scared. Then they tell you that they are the only ones looking out for you. The elites don't care about "you, the little guy" but "We do".

There was a study done several years back asking people who identify as liberals and conservatives, where they got their information from. The liberals cited about 6 different sources spread out between different cable and terrestrial providers. Something like 70% to 75% of conservatives cited Fox News as their primary source of information.

Conservative media appears to know well, what motivates their audience.

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Is there any legal way to shut down Tucker Carlson/Fox [View all] Budi Mar 2022 OP

Confiscate his bank account Walleye Mar 2022 #1

And of course Republican officials could do the same to our journalists? brooklynite Mar 2022 #136

Except the technically Tucker is one of our journalist Walleye Mar 2022 #138

Personally, I don't make jokes about bending the First Amendment... brooklynite Mar 2022 #140

They could at least block it on USA military bases FFS mucifer Mar 2022 #2

There has got to be some way to force them to do that Walleye Mar 2022 #4

Yes, it would be censorship because it would be the govt. MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #9

I'm not sure changing the channel in a common TV room is censorship Walleye Mar 2022 #13

Here's what you said: MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #16

True it was a poor choice of words Walleye Mar 2022 #23

No problem. MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #27

I'm certainly with you on that, I worked for a newspaper for 20 years Walleye Mar 2022 #30

That is the conundrum. nt MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #38

You win in the marketplace of ideas. TheProle Mar 2022 #73

After Trump my faith in that concept is fading. Walleye Mar 2022 #74

The Military did it in the 1970's in West Germany JustAnotherGen Mar 2022 #18

I know that it was done in the 70's in Germany, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #22

Dangerous and false information is not protected free speech. Mr. Evil Mar 2022 #71

Shouting fire in a theater? MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #76

Absolutely! SheltieLover Mar 2022 #48

No, they can't. MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #50

I can think of a few. . .ooops, you said "legal". DARN!!!! niyad Mar 2022 #3

Well, in theory, the msm could always refer to foxnews as a propaganda outlet, unblock Mar 2022 #5

Its as though each MSM outlet has a different level of propaganda. Budi Mar 2022 #19

Why can't Faux Noise viewers figure it out? FakeNoose Mar 2022 #6

You know that is the same question they ask about us right? Caliman73 Mar 2022 #105

Hardcore Fox news viewers don't want to figure it out. They don't care about the truth. hadEnuf Mar 2022 #137

Just about the only things that seem to take down these toxic talking mouths is Baitball Blogger Mar 2022 #7

And Jon Stewart. Tommymac Mar 2022 #65

And, look, Zelensky was a comedian, too. Baitball Blogger Mar 2022 #66

I believe you may have something here. Tommymac Mar 2022 #67

+1 Baitball Blogger Mar 2022 #68

First thing, FOX needs to be registered as a Foreign Agent. TheBlackAdder Mar 2022 #8

Yeah, good luck with that. nt MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #10

The Office of FARA needs to double/triple it's staff size. Budi Mar 2022 #24

Just as HRC put FOX on notice that they are verging towards Actual Malice. . . TheBlackAdder Mar 2022 #35

That seems to be the only serious & effective approach, actually. Budi Mar 2022 #39

Yes! SheltieLover Mar 2022 #51

What we can do about Tucker Carlson vlyons Mar 2022 #11

The companies are lowbrow crap Skittles Mar 2022 #57

New Poll: 43% of Republicans Want to Give Trump the Power to Shut Down Media keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #12

Are you kidding those 43% would approve of Trump shooting somebody on fifth Avenue. Walleye Mar 2022 #28

Could we arrange for Trump and Tucker Carlson to be on fifth avenue? DemocraticPatriot Mar 2022 #85

Probably not, but there's a name he's earned: Lord Haw-Haw cos dem Mar 2022 #14

Yes pressbox69 Mar 2022 #49

BOYCOTT their advertisers... ProudMNDemocrat Mar 2022 #15

That's the proper way to do it, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #17

Fox news doesn't need advertisers. They make about $2 billion per year on hidden subscriber fees PSPS Mar 2022 #32

Everyone who pays for cable or satellite TV supports Fox News Channel. nt. Mariana Mar 2022 #99

Can we start by Canceling Paul Ryan BoD of FOX Corporation? MartyTheGreek Mar 2022 #20

I just don't watch TV programs I dislike or disagree with MichMan Mar 2022 #21

+100. nt MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #25

Revoke Murdoch's citizenship and forbid him from operating in our country. Midnight Writer Mar 2022 #26

THIS ONE. Post #26. ⬆️ Budi Mar 2022 #31

Yes! SheltieLover Mar 2022 #53

Revoking citizenship Sgent Mar 2022 #79

Unless he committed fraud during the application, you cannot ex post facto revoke his citizenship Celerity Mar 2022 #87

I don't think that is against the law to lie. Chainfire Mar 2022 #29

True. Same thing they did with the Covid & Vaccine/Fauci ordeal Budi Mar 2022 #37

Pillow guy must be the most prolific advertiser on Fox. keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #45

Actually, his is a ways down the list. Something like number 10. Chainfire Mar 2022 #47

Yup, I was flipping through the channels to find basketball last night. Initech Mar 2022 #104

Anonymous, where are you?????? nt essaynnc Mar 2022 #33

That would be a good solution Chainfire Mar 2022 #46

Dominion. gibraltar72 Mar 2022 #34

At least make fox play a disclaimer Beachnutt Mar 2022 #36

Wartime censorship would place restrictions on the press bucolic_frolic Mar 2022 #40

I suspect that if we declared war, Fox would rethink its programming very rapidly. Chainfire Mar 2022 #52

Thank you, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #55

The Fox News Network is a cable news channel, not an over-the-air broadcast network. sop Mar 2022 #41

True. ..Dang, there has to be one loophole they cannot use. Budi Mar 2022 #43

Fox News doesn't have over the air legacy broadcasts? bucolic_frolic Mar 2022 #44

The Fox Broadcasting Company is an over-the-air television network licensed by the FCC, sop Mar 2022 #59

Legally separate broadcast entities with intertwined financial and political interests bucolic_frolic Mar 2022 #61

Carlson and Fox are seditious. hadEnuf Mar 2022 #42

Why sure, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #54

It's not a wish. hadEnuf Mar 2022 #62

And Tulsi Gabbard, as well. Budi Mar 2022 #56

It's Tulskyo Rose. GoCubsGo Mar 2022 #70

Not without trashing the first amendment. So...no. Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #58

It's amazing to me how many people don't get that, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #60

They already have that kind of power and you can bet if a Democrat was to do .001% of what they are hadEnuf Mar 2022 #63

One word, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #64

Bullshit? hadEnuf Mar 2022 #77

Yes, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #78

And the same to you as well. hadEnuf Mar 2022 #80

Yes, too bad that the Rethugs shut down CNN, MSNBC, etc. yagotme Mar 2022 #82

CNN, MSNBC, etc. weren't aiding and abetting an enemy of the United States. hadEnuf Mar 2022 #83

Because most of us are not authoritarians determined to find loopholes tritsofme Mar 2022 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author hadEnuf Mar 2022 #91

I'm not authoritarian. hadEnuf Mar 2022 #92

Saying "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #93

Yelling free speech is not a free pass on responsibility and concequences. hadEnuf Mar 2022 #101

Lawyer much? Act_of_Reparation Mar 2022 #102

Think much? hadEnuf Mar 2022 #117

I think on the matter of topics in which I have no expertise, I would defer to those who do. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2022 #124

You need a lawyer to figure out the difference between free speech and propaganda? hadEnuf Mar 2022 #125

So, you are asking me whether I would need a lawyer to determine if a thing is legal? Act_of_Reparation Mar 2022 #126

Where did legality come into question here? hadEnuf Mar 2022 #128

Should those who supported North Vietnam during the Vietnam War have had legal action taken against Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #107

If they had been working with the Kremlin while TASS was hailing them as a partner in their hadEnuf Mar 2022 #116

That's not what I asked. We were in an armed conflict with North Vietnam at the time. Should Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #120

Apples to oranges. You are trying to move the goal posts. hadEnuf Mar 2022 #122

Was she being used as a prop, yagotme Mar 2022 #123

So now it's "Hanoi Jane" time? hadEnuf Mar 2022 #127

Fox is "talking", (think "speech",) yagotme Mar 2022 #129

A huge part of what has been said about Fonda has been proven false yet it's still making the rounds hadEnuf Mar 2022 #132

I know the gerrymandering part is 100% true, yagotme Mar 2022 #134

MSNBC (and CNN) went after Trump during his Administration; so did the Times and Post brooklynite Mar 2022 #141

What does CNN and the rest of the media you mentioned have to do with Republicans trying to charge hadEnuf Mar 2022 #142

Unrelenting mockery. Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #69

Quit cable and satellite television and tell them why. hunter Mar 2022 #72

That is the answer. Mariana Mar 2022 #98

The "Off" switch. (n/t) Iggo Mar 2022 #75

Who in their right mind watches Fox Nooz in the first place? AngryOldDem Mar 2022 #111

We don't - but plenty of dimbulbs watch it dwayneb Mar 2022 #113

Hence my comment about it being a tough sell to convince them otherwise. AngryOldDem Mar 2022 #114

confiscate him as a Russian asset? icymist Mar 2022 #81

Yes. It's in the Constitution about "giving aid and comfort to the enemy." Sogo Mar 2022 #84

Were anti-war protesters arrested during the Vietnam war and charged with treason? former9thward Mar 2022 #86

One has to prove intent. Also, a war has to be going on. Kaleva Mar 2022 #90

There are a few problems with that. Mariana Mar 2022 #97

One (or Authorities) could wonder if Tucker Carlson has an Email problem. PufPuf23 Mar 2022 #89

Treason sarcasmo Mar 2022 #94

Were those advocating for North Vietnam during the Vietnam War also traitors, then? Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #95

According to your own personal, unique definition of the word "treason", perhaps. Mariana Mar 2022 #96

People on DU could stop financing Tucker Carson and cancel their cable. cinematicdiversions Mar 2022 #100

Fox News is very actively and openly aiding and abetting an enemy to the US. Initech Mar 2022 #103

It's not treason. The Constitution is quite specific. Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #108

In our country you are free to lie all you want to. But if you use your freedoms to push traitorous Peacetrain Mar 2022 #106

Supporting a murderous dictator is despicable, but it does not constitute treason. Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #109

In my heart it does...but technically you are correct Peacetrain Mar 2022 #112

Once there is a declaration of war dwayneb Mar 2022 #110

There won't be a declaration of war Jose Garcia Mar 2022 #131

What would cause the FCC to revoke a license? AngryOldDem Mar 2022 #115

Fox News isn't licensed by the FCC onenote Mar 2022 #118

No one thinks that this melm00se Mar 2022 #119

What floor is his office on? nt EarthFirst Mar 2022 #121

The Russian text below Carlson's photo says "Tucker Carson" DFW Mar 2022 #130

DARN. You specified "legal". . . . niyad Mar 2022 #133

Simple answer: no. Nor should we. brooklynite Mar 2022 #135

Probably not. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2022 #139