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WhiskeyGrinder

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Mon Mar 14, 2022, 01:18 PM

Mar 2022

Again, I think one would have to "read into" her actual quote to find a trace of her "discounting Black women's successes". One would have to ignore what she literally said, that they are "marvels."

She literally said "however" after "marvels," and I'm hard pressed to ever find an example where "but" or "however" doesn't erase what was said before it.

One would have to put absolute faith in the article writer's spin on the speech that that one comparison was even all that big a deal in her over all comments.

I don't have to put any faith in any article written about this -- I can see with my own eyes what Campion said, and the reaction from the audience when she said it.

Sorry, but I don't see a lot of discounting going on there. She was talking about her own struggles as a woman director in Hollywood. She is not talking about Venus and Serena.

She was talking about Venus and Serena. She said their names and said their struggles didn't compare to hers. How on earth is she not talking about them?

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Jane Campion says Serena and Venus Williams don't 'play against the guys like I have to' [View all] cinematicdiversions Mar 2022 OP

Straight-up garbage-ass comment. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2022 #1

Really stupid and nasty wryter2000 Mar 2022 #2

Wow. I haven't seen her movie yet. halfulglas Mar 2022 #3

There's no gender inequality. Directing uses the brain... brush Mar 2022 #5

That is literally what gender inequality is obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #16

That sounds like sexism to me, not that the male brain... brush Mar 2022 #29

Who said the male brain is superior to the female brain? AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2022 #35

OK, you're coming in in the middle of a string of posts. brush Mar 2022 #38

No. I don't because no one said they were except you AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2022 #40

You're mssing the point again. In every post I pointed out... brush Mar 2022 #41

Yes, you are arguing against a point that nobody made AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2022 #42

Zing. brush Mar 2022 #44

Retract it for what? It had nothing to do with equality of the brain. halfulglas Mar 2022 #27

That's sexism. Nothing to do with a male brain... brush Mar 2022 #31

bUt tEh HaVe TeH SaMe BrAiNz!!!! AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2022 #45

No one has made that claim kcr Mar 2022 #64

Explain it to me then. I consider the female gender equal to the male... brush Mar 2022 #65

Kind of stupid. Directing uses the brain, not physical strength. brush Mar 2022 #4

She wasn't "going on about" it. It was a single joking comment in a full interview Bucky Mar 2022 #7

Please. Women directors are working at a sexism... brush Mar 2022 #10

That is literally what gender equality is! obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #17

Explain what all that means. All I said is that women's... brush Mar 2022 #20

Well that's a nice distortion of a headline. She was feeling like a champ... Bucky Mar 2022 #6

I'm a bit confused Hav Mar 2022 #8

"Serena and Venus, you are such marvels." Bucky Mar 2022 #15

She directly discounts their successes and achievements. It's shameful. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2022 #11

I'm just applying Occam's razor to what I actually read in the article Bucky Mar 2022 #22

. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2022 #24

"from what I know about white women" -- Seriously? Bucky Mar 2022 #33

. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2022 #36

Please read the other article (linked above) Bucky Mar 2022 #37

I'm not sure why you think I'm "falling for" spin, when I'm looking at the footage with my own WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2022 #39

"From What I Know About White Women...? RobinA Mar 2022 #62

Don't bother seeing her movie either. snowybirdie Mar 2022 #9

Exact it is a moving, wonderful film obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #18

I really liked it. Emotionally complex, cinematically gorgeous, nolabear Mar 2022 #26

That was not even a remotely ambiguous movie. Sympthsical Mar 2022 #46

I thought Phil was repeating abuse he had suffered from Bronco Henry. nolabear Mar 2022 #48

I thought we were watching attempted grooming in the end Sympthsical Mar 2022 #51

Now I wonder if you're thinking the same thing I was nolabear Mar 2022 #52

I thought it was a straight up admission Sympthsical Mar 2022 #53

Yep. But the book doesn't point that way. nolabear Mar 2022 #54

Agree. jeffreyi Mar 2022 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author YorkRd Mar 2022 #12

I stopped watching about a third of the way in edhopper Mar 2022 #13

Stupid comment. BlackSkimmer Mar 2022 #14

The article even says she said it while laughing Bucky Mar 2022 #19

I see your point absolutely. BlackSkimmer Mar 2022 #25

Could be. Bucky Mar 2022 #28

Yes, I actually wasn't clear. I don't think of either of them as that type celebrity. BlackSkimmer Mar 2022 #32

So this is how hate starts. Cartoonist Mar 2022 #21

Or Jodie working really hard to create a divide between black and white women LizBeth Mar 2022 #23

Fuller context and Williams' reactions. nolabear Mar 2022 #30

THANK YOU for this!!! Bucky Mar 2022 #34

I agree. It's too easy to react without understanding enough. nolabear Mar 2022 #49

+1. exactly, thank you Bucky. We women have got to stop letting others LizBeth Mar 2022 #58

In fairness, didn't they have to play nice? ecstatic Mar 2022 #55

I have no idea. nolabear Mar 2022 #57

Yep. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2022 #60

Talk about dismissing a black woman's voice. Right? LizBeth Mar 2022 #61

I dunno. My impression of the Williams sisters is not that they're shrinking violets. Bucky Mar 2022 #63

Tempest in a teapot. Serena Williams cheered the comment. Scrivener7 Mar 2022 #43

+1 good to hear Serena's reaction. LizBeth Mar 2022 #59

Elliot's comments weren't even sexist Sympthsical Mar 2022 #47

I think this is looking too much into something JI7 Mar 2022 #50