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ancianita

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24. Thanks.

Reply to Caliman73 (Reply #23)

Mon Mar 14, 2022, 02:04 PM

Mar 2022

I missed that.

Yes, controlling greed is a problem in free countries. In Koch's America, money IS freedom.

I've read that China's totalitarian social credit system is the algorithmic solution, but I also doubt it really controls greed.

Yes, how much greed is allowed party leaders seems to vary across the political 'spectrum' of seeing access. From economic usury to governmental kleptocracy, seeing depends on how much information publics are allowed access to.

Add no freedom of speech to that, and it doesn't matter to the greedy what publics see. Only in democracies do limits of access and openness -- "need to know," "redaction," "classified", "censorship," "cancelling," "banning" and document erasure -- become costly problems that distract, and thus prevent us from investigating greed problems.

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