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meadowlander

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57. I liked some of his early anti-Bush rants

Tue Mar 15, 2022, 05:41 AM

Mar 2022

but then I tuned in a few years later and he was still doing rants at the same pitch and volume against much less serious issues and it dawned on me that's he a bit of a rage-aholic who rants for ratings whether the subject really deserves it or not.

In the Trump age, it would have been fine, but now he'd be scraping for material by complaining about Biden leaving Afghanistan and not intervening in Ukraine.

Apparently, he has a huge ego and is a pain in the ass to work with too which is why he's been fired from multiple jobs

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/Vox-News/2012/0404/Keith-Olbermann-the-cautionary-tale-of-why-he-was-fired-again

Lawrence O'Donnell is already the network-friendlier version of Keith Olbermann. I watch him sometimes when I'm in the mood for naked partisanship. When I'm in mood for facts, I watch Rachel.

I think Olbermann and O'Donnell back to back are too much of the same thing - commentary, not news.

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MSNBC Almost Brought Back Olbermann to Replace Maddow [View all] demmiblue Mar 2022 OP

Good move, Rachel. We so don't need that kind of baggage. Let Olbermann be olbermann... FreepFryer Mar 2022 #1

No, I love Olberman and he gave Rachel her start...we could expect the truth from him and Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #62

Enjoy. (Nt) FreepFryer Mar 2022 #63

I've hardly watched her this past year anyway PatSeg Mar 2022 #74

MSNBC does not deserve Keith Olbermann. He's better than that. IMHO. nt Samrob Mar 2022 #69

I wish Rebl2 Mar 2022 #2

I'm not unhappy bucolic_frolic Mar 2022 #3

Umhm. Griffin didn't want him and he'd have been wrong for Rachel's audience. Hortensis Mar 2022 #94

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I vote Alex Wagner n/t targetpractice Mar 2022 #4

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I agree, seems nice enough but boring. I would love to see Jen Psaki take over. Bev54 Mar 2022 #26

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Alex has a Nicole Wallace vibe... targetpractice Mar 2022 #35

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Beg to differ. Maddow is way better than Dubya-defending Wallace onetexan Mar 2022 #54

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Yes, you described it perfectly PatSeg Mar 2022 #83

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Agree MoonlitKnight Mar 2022 #44

Alex Wagner is a cure for insomnia. Whoever they pick should be riveting and JoanofArgh Mar 2022 #77

:) Whatever Rachel has she has in spades. Most of those who subbed Hortensis Mar 2022 #97

That is too bad AZProgressive Mar 2022 #5

I don't think he fits in that time slot for Rachel but I could listen to him in Bev54 Mar 2022 #28

Agree. JoanofArgh Mar 2022 #81

I could see 11th Hour. Hortensis Mar 2022 #101

My exact thought JPK Mar 2022 #116

I could see it for him. Could be she was thought better for Hortensis Mar 2022 #120

What about someone a lot younger? Buckeyeblue Mar 2022 #6

Alex Wagner JI7 Mar 2022 #11

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Love Rachel, but she is sonic ambien... targetpractice Mar 2022 #33

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Lol, I guess you really don't know how popular her show is! Nt USALiberal Mar 2022 #46

Of course I do... targetpractice Mar 2022 #61

Yes, over and over and over again PatSeg Mar 2022 #84

Apparently fine for everyone else because of her ratings!! USALiberal Mar 2022 #98

Yes, she has great ratings, PatSeg Mar 2022 #105

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Michael Che Cheezoholic Mar 2022 #16

Someone in their 20s/30s hasn't MOMFUDSKI Mar 2022 #24

If we're doing demographics, I'd like to see a feisty old woman. Sparkly Mar 2022 #50

Wow, yes. As you say. Like no one we've ever had, but should. Hortensis Mar 2022 #102

Let Olbermann replace either Ari Melber or Chuck Todd. Paladin Mar 2022 #8

Rachel doesn't want to do daily show. JI7 Mar 2022 #13

They SHOULD put her on MtP and fire useless chuck todd. Volaris Mar 2022 #40

It is Rachel who doesn't want to stay where she is PatSeg Mar 2022 #85

I would have welcomed Keith back MOMFUDSKI Mar 2022 #9

Same here PatSeg Mar 2022 #86

I would watch Keith . He's a lot more concise. Why not both ? Tetrachloride Mar 2022 #10

Keith had Rachel on his show and gave her lots of exposure early on. rickford66 Mar 2022 #12

She was on Air America around 2005 when I first heard of her and made a point madinmaryland Mar 2022 #15

Keith went out of his way to expose Rachel MOMFUDSKI Mar 2022 #20

I guess "no good deed goes unpunished."🙄 nt Raine Mar 2022 #29

He did the same thing for Chris Hayes PatSeg Mar 2022 #87

I find her behavior disgraceful...there is no one like Keith. Maybe she worried he would steal Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #64

Including her. What they offer is very different. Even if loyalty were owed Hortensis Mar 2022 #70

Put KO in the 11th hour slot Cheezoholic Mar 2022 #14

That is why MSNBC must decide MOMFUDSKI Mar 2022 #22

Also Olbermann is a professional PatSeg Mar 2022 #89

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I love Al Franken as a comedian, a writer, and a senator, PatSeg Mar 2022 #103

That would be great meadowlander Mar 2022 #113

YES!!! nt JPK Mar 2022 #117

Wonder if Rachel's shift in her own plans from leaving her show; were influenced empedocles Mar 2022 #17

I'd get cable or streaming or whatever the Newest & Shiniest Media is these days just for his show. Torchlight Mar 2022 #18

I am right there MOMFUDSKI Mar 2022 #21

GREAT way to describe his work...... MyOwnPeace Mar 2022 #32

That's a good idea. nt ecstatic Mar 2022 #43

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Yes, you said it so well PatSeg Mar 2022 #91

Can someone educate me on their beef? I liked Olbermann alot back in the day dsp3000 Mar 2022 #19

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I liked some of his early anti-Bush rants meadowlander Mar 2022 #57

THIS. Olbermann does a lot of rant-style opinion, Rachel fact- and context-based Hortensis Mar 2022 #71

I like O'Donnell too meadowlander Mar 2022 #112

Interesting. I was a fan of his during BushCheney, but after he left I did some reading .... Hekate Mar 2022 #23

He irritates me, so no loss IMO relayerbob Mar 2022 #25

Olbermann was a good, loud voice for Democrats during Dubya's reign. Nt Baked Potato Mar 2022 #27

Cold Me. Mar 2022 #37

No thanks re: Olbermann. DURHAM D Mar 2022 #38

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They lost me at either-or. Hugin Mar 2022 #56

No he was not sexist and he gave Rachel her chance...he is 1000 times better than she is...he Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #65

Lol, link to your proof!!!! USALiberal Mar 2022 #99

lol - DURHAM D Mar 2022 #106

Ok, nothing then, thanks! USALiberal Mar 2022 #110

You don't know from nothin'. DURHAM D Mar 2022 #111

NOooo he doesn't help. Neither does Chris HAYES. UTUSN Mar 2022 #39

Agree more open-minded truth needed. Kneejerk tribalism kills brain cells. Hortensis Mar 2022 #76

Plus he bugs the hell out of me. iemanja Mar 2022 #115

I enjoyed KO during bush2.0, but he's no Rachel. lindysalsagal Mar 2022 #41

I have to say. I stopped watching Rachel a while back... I find her show boring personally. I like Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #66

Yikes, but it wasn't a good fit. ecstatic Mar 2022 #42

It was Olbermann who first brought Maddow as a guest of his show question everything Mar 2022 #45

Totally agree. nt Raine Mar 2022 #55

Then she went in the opposite direction PatSeg Mar 2022 #90

It's obvious it's a NO on Olbermann BlueIdaho Mar 2022 #51

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Not at NBC HQ BlueIdaho Mar 2022 #73

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Ahhhhh... BlueIdaho Mar 2022 #78

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I'd love to see that! BlueIdaho Mar 2022 #82

Keith literally made Maddow budkin Mar 2022 #53

How about a show pressbox69 Mar 2022 #58

Sounds like she was threatened to have Keith presence on MSNBC in her time slot. Emile Mar 2022 #60

She knows, he would get better ratings...loss of power for her I expect. Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #67

Professional jealousy? JPK Mar 2022 #118

I just 'unfollowed' Rachel/MSNBC. Trashed the podcast too...I am done. I have been unhappy with Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #68

I'll alert the media!!! Nt USALiberal Mar 2022 #100

It was a bad idea for MSNBC JoanofArgh Mar 2022 #72

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Remember, Maddow's runaway success also helped Olbermann's show. Hortensis Mar 2022 #88

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Keith was great, especially early on, BUT themaguffin Mar 2022 #93

Id enjoy that, But KO is a bit of a loose cannon. Happy Hoosier Mar 2022 #104

I agree Tree Lady Mar 2022 #107

The fact that he went to the press to whine about it says a lot about him AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2022 #119

It's why he keeps getting canned. AngryOldDem Mar 2022 #109

Good on Rachel. AngryOldDem Mar 2022 #108

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