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Nevilledog

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Mon Mar 21, 2022, 01:19 PM Mar 2022

The real - and far scarier - reason Republicans think Biden is illegitimate [View all]




https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/21/republicans-biden-trump-election-democracy


Earlier this month, Team Trump claimed in court that their efforts to nullify Joe Biden’s victory could not possibly have been fraudulent or be described as a criminal conspiracy, because those in and around the White House had merely been acting on the basis of sincerely held suspicions.

This sparked the latest round in the never-ending debate over whether or not Republicans actually believe that the election was stolen from them. Politically, it is important to push back against the opportunistic ways in which Republicans up and down the country have been using the “big lie”. But if we are trying to understand what is animating the right’s rapidly accelerating radicalization against democracy, binary assumptions of Republicans as either true believers or power-hungry cynics are not very helpful and actually obscure more than they illuminate. In some fundamental way, Republicans are both. What we really need to grapple with is why so many Republicans are convinced the outcome of the election was illegitimate regardless of whether or not there were specific procedural irregularities.

Surveys have consistently indicated that a clear majority, probably about two-thirds, of Republicans consider Biden an illegitimate president. It’s highly likely that many of them are well aware that some of the specific conspiratorial claims emanating from the right – fake ballots? Lost ballots? “Illegals” voting? – are bogus. But they don’t seem to care about the specifics. They just believe Biden shouldn’t be president.

What is most alarming is the underlying ideology that leads so many on the right to consider Democratic victories invalid – even if they concede there was nothing technically wrong with how the election was conducted. It has become a core tenet of the Republican worldview to consider the Democratic party as not simply a political opponent, but an enemy pursuing an “un-American” project of turning what is supposed to be a white Christian patriarchal nation into a land of godless multiracial pluralism. Conversely, Republicans see themselves as the sole proponents of “real” America, defending the country from the forces of radical leftism, liberalism and wokeism.

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The same reason they hated Bill Clinton. meadowlander Mar 2022 #1
Thank you. I don't have enough time left on earth to care about Boomerproud Mar 2022 #3
THIS 👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼... it's simply because Biden STOLE THE STOP!!! live love laugh Mar 2022 #57
Hell, take it back to 1960 JHB Mar 2022 #11
To this day you'll hear heckles65 Mar 2022 #23
Yup. Whenever the subject of "stolen election" is brought up... JHB Mar 2022 #40
Oh yes PatSeg Mar 2022 #28
It's the sore loser syndrome! Lard -ass couldn't handle it !! monkeyman1 Mar 2022 #38
They had the White House for 12 years PatSeg Mar 2022 #39
It's funny heckles65 Mar 2022 #43
Yes, once they no longer have any power PatSeg Mar 2022 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #44
They really do believe this: FM123 Mar 2022 #2
Yep Mad_Machine76 Mar 2022 #5
The thing is tho, we can all add. We KNOW that 2+2 equals 4 Volaris Mar 2022 #32
There's almost no way to disabuse them of this belief. maxsolomon Mar 2022 #6
That has been obvious to many of us here at DU for KPN Mar 2022 #17
Yes, he does not seem to get that. I have another nickname for the Chuckster. PatrickforB Mar 2022 #21
There's no hate quite like Chrisitan love. OMGWTF Mar 2022 #18
And the right wing churches have joined wholeheartedly in this effort. milestogo Mar 2022 #20
To me this just proves they're delusional babylonsister Mar 2022 #4
The ones that are mostly keep their heads down. maxsolomon Mar 2022 #7
They need to speak up then and say something Mad_Machine76 Mar 2022 #8
They are. Wednesdays Mar 2022 #25
I was thinking more rank-and-file voters Mad_Machine76 Mar 2022 #29
Some Repukes might actually believe this FakeNoose Mar 2022 #9
The GOP is fighting the Putin battle of autocracy vs democracy here in the US. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #10
The financial elite in the US, our equivalent to wnylib Mar 2022 #26
You nailed it! burrowowl Mar 2022 #35
Agreed Love4u Mar 2022 #48
Exactly, American oligarchs push the GOP party line. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #42
Sum Game. czarjak Mar 2022 #56
I think there is something to this article. riversedge Mar 2022 #12
Good article. K&R Arazi Mar 2022 #13
"...a land of godless multiracial pluralism." tecelote Mar 2022 #14
Me too. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2022 #16
Ha! Was just about to post this when I saw you'd beaten me to the punch. Pinback Mar 2022 #19
"acting on sincerely held suspicions". The Big Lie was promoted as fact, so court filing is bogus Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2022 #15
K&R. This is something that doesn't get explained enough. ificandream Mar 2022 #22
This goes back to radical claims that "America is a Christian nation"... zaj Mar 2022 #24
They've been brainwashed and conditioned to believe that only they can win elections... Wounded Bear Mar 2022 #27
That is it in a nutshell. Celerity Mar 2022 #55
I've gone down a rabbit hole of watching prophets - tangentially related to an interest of mine TlalocW Mar 2022 #30
The weird ones I hear down here outside of Little Rock say that people who should not have LiberalArkie Mar 2022 #31
After you beat them, join them. Marcuse Mar 2022 #33
The truth laid bare. It's raw racism. Joinfortmill Mar 2022 #34
The godless multiracial pluralism part? That's the part they'll crank up to 11 for Kamala ancianita Mar 2022 #36
I hope enough Rs feel the ballot box is against them, KS Toronado Mar 2022 #37
From what I heard is they think .... scardycat Mar 2022 #41
Have they abandoned the Reptilian CT? EarthFirst Mar 2022 #45
If it's nucking futs, it's within the Venn diagram JHB Mar 2022 #52
i don't even think repukes know what they are mad at....... Takket Mar 2022 #46
A Republican tradition, since Joe McCarthy! Mopar151 Mar 2022 #47
/// usaf-vet Mar 2022 #49
Ergo, GOP equals treason. Kid Berwyn Mar 2022 #50
Great article! CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2022 #53
I Hate These People. GB_RN Mar 2022 #54
Republicans have long been contending that being a Democrat is "un-American." Pure McCarthyism. Martin68 Mar 2022 #58
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