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In reply to the discussion: Julian Assange is the tech world's Donald Trump [View all]msanthrope
(37,549 posts)99. Actually, yes. There is proof that Assange did not merely recieive, but facilitated theft.
1) Mr Manning inserted software from wikileaks onto DoD database--
Prosecutors charge Manning put software on secure computers to allow him to download classified material and burn it to a compact disc. Manning was assigned as an intelligence analyst in Iraq and had a top-secret clearance. He worked in a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility, known as SCIF.
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/12/army-manning-hearing/#more-35191?tw_p=twt
After February 11: Unauthorized software on SIPRNET; the Collateral Murder, Rejkjavik-13 cable, and Defense Intelligence documents
Then, remember, Manning came to the US in January to February 2010. Adrian Lamo has long alleged that Manning got help from some folks in Boston. The timeline shows Manning returned to Iraq on February 11, which also happens to be the first date Manning is alleged to have put the first of two unauthorized pieces of software onto SIPRNET.
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2011/03/05/a-narrative-chronology-of-bradley-mannings-alleged-leaks/
2a-- Mr. Manning performed searches on behalf of Assange--
During the course of the governments direct examination of Fulton, prosecuting attorney Capt. Ashden Fein asked Fulton if, in the course of his work, Manning had a need to conduct searches on SIPRnet for certain keywords GITMO SOP, Julian Assange, WikiLeaks or whether he had reason to visit a specific part of the CENTCOM web site. Fulton replied no in all cases.
Another witness, fellow intelligence analyst Sgt. Chad Madaras, was later asked similar questions. Madaras and Manning shared computers at Forward Operating Base Hammer in Iraq, where they were deployed together. Madaras worked the day shift, and Manning mostly served on the night shift.
The government asked if Madaras had ever used their computers to search for some of the same terms, as well as the term JTF GITMO or the name Birgitta Jonsdottir, or if he had ever used the Net Centric Diplomacy Database. Madaras replied no in each case.
The implication of the questioning seemed to be that the government had found forensic evidence that Mannings workstation computers had been used to search these terms, though there was no testimony that stated this directly.
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/12/manning-apache-video/
Understand that this search of Jonsdottir happened AFTER she was editing the Collateral Murder video, and BEFORE this was known to the public...in other words, Bradley Manning didn't pull these search terms out of his ass.
2b--And asked Assange for help in cracking military codes.....
In another chat, dated March 8, 2010, Manning asked Nathaniel Frank, believed to be Assange, about help in cracking the main password on his classified SIPRnet computer so that he could log on to it anonymously. He asked Frank if he had experience cracking IM NT hashes (presumably its a mistype and he meant NTLM for the Microsoft NT LAN Manager). Frank replied yes, that they had rainbow tables for doing that. Manning then sent him what looked like a hash.
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/12/army-manning-hearing/#more-35191?tw_p=twt
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HA! I saw "cringeley" in the url and I thought that might be a new meme working off
MADem
Oct 2012
#4
Except that Assange actually has done and is doing things that are actually newsworthy.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Oct 2012
#5
The Anonymous people, apparently, are starting up their own "Wikileaks on Steroids."
MADem
Oct 2012
#39
I think they are going for the " massive distribution with no vetting model," I'm afraid.
MADem
Oct 2012
#48
It would be a fine solution--but I just don't see that happening. I think your latter scenario is
MADem
Oct 2012
#72
Hmmm. You do know that when you wear the costume, people do think you do the job associated with
MADem
Oct 2012
#41
You were asked for examples, not platitudes. Show us the "lies" that were exposed.
Tarheel_Dem
Oct 2012
#29
Knowing the extent of civilian casualties is, I agree, worth knowing and leaking.
randome
Oct 2012
#81
don't make fun of the sweet bebe jesus assange, you'll make someone have a sad...
dionysus
Oct 2012
#70
Assange makes me have "a sad" for all the suckers who've forked over $$$$$.
Tarheel_Dem
Oct 2012
#95
Actually, yes. There is proof that Assange did not merely recieive, but facilitated theft.
msanthrope
Oct 2012
#99
What do you think a government should do to prevent military secrets from being stolen?
randome
Oct 2012
#62
"By longstanding first amendment tradition, third parties such as news organisations — even..."
Hissyspit
Oct 2012
#96
I can't imagine what you think is illegal about Paypal not allowing payments to Wikileaks
mythology
Oct 2012
#103
Fascinating observation, given that the 'author' simply linked to an article and provided snippets.
randome
Oct 2012
#43
I don't know this for a fact, so don't come at me. This is speculation, some of it.
MADem
Oct 2012
#80
I truly think the writer of the article is carrying water for elements of Anonymous.
MADem
Oct 2012
#90
I have a proposal ~ let's call a truce, let this thread die, and get President Obama re-elected.
Zorra
Oct 2012
#47
The characterization is a tiny part of the article, a hook--the big news is on page 2. nt
MADem
Oct 2012
#83
As I've said elsewhere, I believe this correspondent is carrying water for elements of Anonymous.
MADem
Oct 2012
#111
Assange may be a blowhard, but at least he's doing something helpful via WikiLeaks.
Odin2005
Oct 2012
#68
Wait leaking classified Gitmo documents is like asking for Obama college records?
Puregonzo1188
Oct 2012
#84