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In reply to the discussion: Do you support NATO enforcing a no fly zone in Ukraine? [View all]anarch
(6,536 posts)it's just that the main combatants haven't faced each other in a traditional military combat sense, aside from proxy wars in various colonialized parts of the world.
but Putin has certainly carried out what I think can objectively be considered acts of war against various nations he considers to be enemies, via cyber attacks, propaganda efforts, espionage and blackmail, etc. And he's had a great deal of success--I mean he basically had a puppet government installed in the U.S. for four years.
But that doesn't mean I'm in favor of nuking Moscow or something. Openly having NATO forces shoot down Russian aircraft and bomb locations in Russia does not seem like a great idea to me.
I feel as frustrated as anyone else, but we need to find a way to deal with this without escalating the situation to the point of bringing on global annihilation.
I wouldn't say we've abandoned Ukraine; I'm sure the CIA is doing what they do, and probably elements of special forces as well. This has to end in Ukraine, and the world needs to do more collectively to prevent this kind of thing (and I dunno, things like Iraq, Yemen, Palestine, etc. etc. etc.).