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Gaugamela

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25. White phosphorus was considered legal when US forces used them in Falluja:
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 11:55 AM
Mar 2022
A recent documentary by the Italian state broadcaster, RAI, claimed that Iraqi civilians, including women and children, had died of burns caused by white phosphorus during the assault on Falluja. The report has been strenuously denied by the US. But Col Venable said it had been used to dislodge enemy fighters from entrenched positions in the city.

"White phosphorus is a conventional munition. It is not a chemical weapon. They are not outlawed or illegal," he told the BBC. "We use them primarily as obscurants, for smokescreens or target marking in some cases. However, it is an incendiary weapon, and may be used against enemy combatants."

Asked if it was used as an offensive weapon during the siege of Falluja, he replied: "Yes, it was used as an incendiary weapon against enemy combatants. When you have enemy forces that are in covered positions that your high explosive artillery rounds are not having an impact on, and you wish to get them out of those positions, one technique is to fire a white phosphorus round into the position: the combined effects of the fire and smoke - and in some case the terror brought about by the explosion on the ground - will drive them out of the holes so you can kill them with high explosives."

The Guardian columnist George Monbiot said yesterday that accounts of the use of white phosphorus during the battle for Falluja were published in the March 2005 edition of Field Artillery, a magazine published by the US army. A reporter with California's North County Times, embedded with the marines during the offensive, also reported soldiers firing into buildings a mixture of white phosphorus and high explosives known as "shake'n'bake".


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/16/iraq.usa

All this because four Blackwater mercenaries were ambushed and killed by local civilians.

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Photo: Donkees Mar 2022 #1
Rain from Hell. calimary Mar 2022 #19
Add it to the list COL Mustard Mar 2022 #2
Strap your self up fellow ENTS.. if this is true, we are going to war... Peacetrain Mar 2022 #3
How do you figure? ColinC Mar 2022 #4
I don't think they would Buckeyeblue Mar 2022 #5
If you are so excited to be sent to war sarisataka Mar 2022 #7
That is desertion. I am not a deserter ColinC Mar 2022 #9
So you are currently active duty? nt sarisataka Mar 2022 #10
Si ColinC Mar 2022 #11
Which branch are you with and how long sarisataka Mar 2022 #12
Too many details. ColinC Mar 2022 #13
So your solution is in sight sarisataka Mar 2022 #15
Just a t shirt??? ColinC Mar 2022 #16
I was USMC sarisataka Mar 2022 #17
I don't think White Phosphorus is considered a "chemical attack", but it is a war crime Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #14
Why would we go to war over use of a weapon sarisataka Mar 2022 #6
Quite so. WP isn't exactly nerve gas in terms of the political fallout from its use. Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #8
+1, uponit7771 Mar 2022 #18
Well we should maybe give him Poland 48656c6c6f20 Mar 2022 #20
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #21
I'd consider it a chemical weapon........ KS Toronado Mar 2022 #22
Use chemicals to murder civilians to liberate them from Nazis IronLionZion Mar 2022 #23
White phosphorous Traildogbob Mar 2022 #24
White phosphorus was considered legal when US forces used them in Falluja: Gaugamela Mar 2022 #25
Link ? left-of-center2012 Mar 2022 #26
Right here malaise Mar 2022 #29
that link is for Iraq left-of-center2012 Mar 2022 #33
Here's the correct ink left-of-center2012 Mar 2022 #35
Israel did some 2008-09 war in Gaza. Pics abound on BBC, Al Jazeera. The world turned a blind eye childfreebychoice Mar 2022 #27
Now where did Putin get that idea - oh wait! malaise Mar 2022 #28
White phosphorus is great for killing ducks too! Submariner Mar 2022 #30
saw that coming. Shit. librechik Mar 2022 #31
WP is generally legal to use BGBD Mar 2022 #32
Here's the link left-of-center2012 Mar 2022 #34
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