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Torchlight

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148. I don't really see the OP's suggestion as punishment or suppression

Wed Mar 23, 2022, 04:58 PM

Mar 2022

To me, it comes across as an appeal to the better angels of our natures. I saw zero punishment, and even less oppression in the request.

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Would it be possible for everyone to talk about women without using insults? [View all] iemanja Mar 2022 OP

Let's turn it around. North Shore Chicago Mar 2022 #1

No rehabing this word because it's a gender-based slur, we're not Indian-Hindu nor British & intent hlthe2b Mar 2022 #11

No, let's not obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #21

Oh, for fuck's sake. Scrivener7 Mar 2022 #22

Too late for that. MineralMan Mar 2022 #53

Amen. Wednesdays Mar 2022 #70

Yes. Relying on word roots to forgive ugly misogynistic usages MineralMan Mar 2022 #72

I Could Not Agree More RobinA Mar 2022 #96

Thank you North Shore Chicago Mar 2022 #106

It's the context not the origin of the word that's important. meadowlander Mar 2022 #117

That's like trying to rehab the old Sanskrit word& symbol Svastika. Doesn't work. Hekate Mar 2022 #137

Agree w the sentiment of the OP and the reply above. FreepFryer Mar 2022 #2

Thank you! obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #3

Agree, sadly. It should not be hard to find appropriate and accurate epithets for poorly spooky3 Mar 2022 #5

Yes, exactly obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #9

EarlG spoke out for trans women indeed. BlackSkimmer Mar 2022 #18

It was in the same OP he did obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #23

I think I remember him commenting on the jokes that feminize Lindsay Graham. Scrivener7 Mar 2022 #25

Absolutely. BlackSkimmer Mar 2022 #58

DU admins have spoken out against anti-gay and anti-trans comments. yardwork Mar 2022 #39

Maybe anti-gay and anti-trans. Certainly, racial slurs. But I am not seeing any push back LizBeth Mar 2022 #79

I agree that sexism on DU is a bigger problem than ever. yardwork Mar 2022 #105

It does seem worse than usual lately. BlackSkimmer Mar 2022 #59

Yeah obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #65

I don't understand any of the questions. Doodley Mar 2022 #4

Why do you think this is helpful? obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #24

It is helpful to those who like to use slurs and don't want to be told not to. Scrivener7 Mar 2022 #34

Bingo! obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #66

Maybe you could ask some questions for clarification? yardwork Mar 2022 #40

I read the questions several times and do not understand what they are asking. Doodley Mar 2022 #115

Some DUers were calling him Lady G. nt DLevine Mar 2022 #116

Okay thanks for clarifying. I appreciate it. He's a very effeminate lawmaker who is anti-gay. He is Doodley Mar 2022 #120

Call him what he really is, a hypocritical jackass. nt DLevine Mar 2022 #122

This thread was started because someone dared to call Graham "Lady G"? AntiFascist Mar 2022 #164

No, that's not why the thread was started. nt DLevine Mar 2022 #168

I suggest we call him "Lady Bug," how's that? n/t AntiFascist Mar 2022 #173

I call him a pos hypocritical jackass from hell. nt DLevine Mar 2022 #174

Why is "lady" part of your insult? Why do you think "lady" is an insulting Scrivener7 Mar 2022 #177

I should have said "ladybug" as one word, and this is allegedly something... AntiFascist Mar 2022 #179

I am so tired of hearing sexist slurs then the user "promise" it has nothing to do with women. LizBeth Mar 2022 #183

FYI a ladybug is an insect. If you need to know how it relates to Lindsey Graham, just use Google AntiFascist Mar 2022 #188

What is it you don't understand? BlackSkimmer Mar 2022 #60

The thought police are out again making their rounds. BannonsLiver Mar 2022 #187

Excellent and helpful reminder. Thank you. spooky3 Mar 2022 #6

Thank you! brer cat Mar 2022 #7

It's why people flocked to Jackpineradicals.com in 2016, so they could call Democrats the c-word. betsuni Mar 2022 #8

Oh, God! Remember that? Because not allowing it was infringing on their liberteh. Scrivener7 Mar 2022 #32

Thank you! nt DLevine Mar 2022 #10

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The problem is the more we try to suppress such talk, the more it empowers the use of those words Amishman Mar 2022 #13

Words have power. What we call people matters n/t MindHowYouGo Mar 2022 #16

Words Have The Power RobinA Mar 2022 #98

we were raised with treestar Mar 2022 #150

So, you're ok with gay slurs? Racial slurs? DLevine Mar 2022 #17

I bet we know the answer to your question obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #27

Yup DLevine Mar 2022 #28

I'm White And Not Gay RobinA Mar 2022 #100

"Slur away with female terms". That is just sad. nt DLevine Mar 2022 #102

It's Very Freeing, RobinA Mar 2022 #104

Imagine DU allowing posters to call Clarence Thomas the N word. DLevine Mar 2022 #110

We would not do that treestar Mar 2022 #152

I don't engage with right-wingers. DLevine Mar 2022 #156

They aren't treestar Mar 2022 #161

The op is about asking DUers to not use gendered slurs. DLevine Mar 2022 #162

Not using them against Lindsay Graham treestar Mar 2022 #167

It wasn't just about Graham. DLevine Mar 2022 #172

Isn't that ironic? The one insult toward men treating them like women, raping them in prison LizBeth Mar 2022 #184

I have been mocked because of my accent. I could be offended, but I choose not to be. We can't Doodley Mar 2022 #130

I have a problem with all of them, but it doesn't make reacting productive Amishman Mar 2022 #112

I hear what you're saying, but I disagree that we shouldn't call it out. DLevine Mar 2022 #114

no one ever mentioned permitting that treestar Mar 2022 #154

of course not treestar Mar 2022 #151

Of course right-wingers use slurs, it's what they do. Fuck them. DLevine Mar 2022 #160

So, using that logic, we should use the n word and the r word as much as we want , huh? BlackSkimmer Mar 2022 #19

If by we, you include white people then no. CrackityJones75 Mar 2022 #57

lolz obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #67

I get what you're saying, but if its a noun instead of an adjective....... oldsoftie Mar 2022 #144

No. treestar Mar 2022 #158

So, do you call a black person a nword? obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #26

I don't use such language, which is not what I'm suggesting Amishman Mar 2022 #113

I don't really see the OP's suggestion as punishment or suppression Torchlight Mar 2022 #148

I say again: Oh, for fuck's sake. In the real world, language matters. Scrivener7 Mar 2022 #29

As a gay woman, I've seen that the opposite is true. yardwork Mar 2022 #42

Very well put. Thank you. Hekate Mar 2022 #138

Men did give women the right to vote in that treestar Mar 2022 #163

I always find those who say, "words only have power if you assign it to them", bullwinkle428 Mar 2022 #45

Thank you! yardwork Mar 2022 #49

But telling them they have power just by using a word treestar Mar 2022 #153

Nope. You are incorrect. MineralMan Mar 2022 #56

The purpose is to give offense iemanja Mar 2022 #76

No, that is not the problem. MineralMan Mar 2022 #77

I think they have done well accomplishing that and are using that very reasoning LizBeth Mar 2022 #85

Yes. There is no possible defense for using the c-word. MineralMan Mar 2022 #89

+1 LizBeth Mar 2022 #92

on a message board is not the same as formal speech treestar Mar 2022 #155

This message was self-deleted by its author MineralMan Mar 2022 #170

DU is a community. If some violate that community's standards, MineralMan Mar 2022 #171

All these years black people have been encouraging iemanja Mar 2022 #90

That's utter and complete bullshit. Solly Mack Mar 2022 #127

You sum it up perfectly! Behind the Aegis Mar 2022 #142

Thank you. Solly Mack Mar 2022 #147

Blaming the victim while standing virtuously. I didn't do it. The person I insulted LizBeth Mar 2022 #185

Well said Amishman. Doodley Mar 2022 #128

True. And right wingers would use those words against treestar Mar 2022 #149

Same with the grave dancing. oldsoftie Mar 2022 #14

Not Sure How You See That As Parallel ProfessorGAC Mar 2022 #33

Agreed. yardwork Mar 2022 #43

I'm gonna vent here too...lol OneGrassRoot Mar 2022 #35

Glad I wasn't the only one!! I really thought I WAS. And I agree with you too oldsoftie Mar 2022 #36

I gotta agree with you with all the cutesy name slurs people make up for tfg, Putin, whomever. BlackSkimmer Mar 2022 #61

Thank you! All of these childish names and acronyms are simply used show that the poster is one of Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #62

Good way to put it oldsoftie Mar 2022 #83

"Kid" being the operative word here lol. BlackSkimmer Mar 2022 #99

Some of them are clever treestar Mar 2022 #157

Apples & oranges, bud Tarc Mar 2022 #55

Well there ya go. Difference of opinion. Some people deserve a disparaging word too then oldsoftie Mar 2022 #81

The cute "cword" terms are almost always left up, and wtf gravedancing? obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #68

+1 LizBeth Mar 2022 #94

TOTALLY Agree and THANK YOU!!! 👍 nt Raine Mar 2022 #15

Kick. Scrivener7 Mar 2022 #30

Sticks and stones... dixiechiken1 Mar 2022 #31

The slurs come out when it's thought it can be gotten away with Ohio Joe Mar 2022 #37

Do you approve of such language? iemanja Mar 2022 #87

I do not... Ohio Joe Mar 2022 #93

I'm glad to hear that iemanja Mar 2022 #95

K&R WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2022 #38

Let's get rid of people calling others "dicks" too luv2fly Mar 2022 #41

. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2022 #44

So some slurs are okay? luv2fly Mar 2022 #51

If you're confused by such things, you might find it helpful to not use any slurs at all, rather WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2022 #52

I believe that was the point. CrackityJones75 Mar 2022 #63

If that was the point, then what's the controversy? yardwork Mar 2022 #107

It's like when white people claim to be the victims of racism iemanja Mar 2022 #78

+1. Exactly LizBeth Mar 2022 #86

So you don't think whites can be victims of racism? oldsoftie Mar 2022 #101

Individuals can be victims, but we're talking about systemic oppression here. yardwork Mar 2022 #108

Oh no, I don't believe that at all. But some think it can't happen at all oldsoftie Mar 2022 #111

Who exactly is the racial oppressor of whites? iemanja Mar 2022 #133

Any race can oppress any other race. Saying it only goes 1 way is false. oldsoftie Mar 2022 #143

If a black person calls you a name iemanja Mar 2022 #180

You continue to excuse it by comparing scale. Racism is racism. oldsoftie Mar 2022 #181

Actually, it doesn't. yardwork Mar 2022 #47

Yeah not so much luv2fly Mar 2022 #50

It isn't a gendered slur, you are being so offensive obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #64

Huh? luv2fly Mar 2022 #71

Huh? obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #75

but really what you want to ensure iemanja Mar 2022 #80

Post removed Post removed Mar 2022 #46

I can and do agree to quit using sexist and homophobic tropes Ferrets are Cool Mar 2022 #48

Can you be nice to other DUers? iemanja Mar 2022 #82

When using a sexist or racist slur you are insulting/hurting ALL of that group. LizBeth Mar 2022 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author Doodley Mar 2022 #118

Well, apparently not when talking about Lindsey graham oldsoftie Mar 2022 #145

Whenever I hear something like "Miss Lindsey" or "Lady G"... AntiFascist Mar 2022 #175

I always assume it comes from someone who thinks women are inherently inferior. Scrivener7 Mar 2022 #176

I appreciate your point of view, but I disagree... AntiFascist Mar 2022 #178

Yes. Their aim is to insult gay men by comparing them to women. Scrivener7 Mar 2022 #182

+1 LizBeth Mar 2022 #186

Indeed. There are many, many words we can use for, say, MTG or Boebert. Tarc Mar 2022 #54

Colorfully and well said! iemanja Mar 2022 #84

I will admit that I'm guilty of that COL Mustard Mar 2022 #69

I agree and have spoken out also. Insulting all women. No way would we use a racist slur to LizBeth Mar 2022 #73

Indeed, well said obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #74

Any Dem who stoops to that should be ashamed of himself (or herself should that be the case). CTyankee Mar 2022 #91

I'm sorry Lindsey Graham has problems BradAllison Mar 2022 #97

Of course he has problems iemanja Mar 2022 #136

I agree and I support this request. SYFROYH Mar 2022 #103

Thank you! It's progress not perfection for all of us. yardwork Mar 2022 #109

I cringe every time someone on DU uses the slur "douchebag". milestogo Mar 2022 #119

at times a word will become so used treestar Mar 2022 #166

As a gay man, I have no issues with feminizing Lindsey Graham. beaglelover Mar 2022 #121

That's nice for you obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #123

Thank you! beaglelover Mar 2022 #126

It's so sweet you don't give a damn about how women feel about this obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #140

Thanks again! beaglelover Mar 2022 #146

It is really sad you think gendered and lgbt slurs sre okay obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #165

And I think it's really sad that you let mere words affect your life so much. beaglelover Mar 2022 #169

I would hate if someone called me these things treestar Mar 2022 #159

As a woman, I have an issue. It suggests that calling a man a woman is an insult. Scrivener7 Mar 2022 #129

You're entitled to your beliefs as am I. beaglelover Mar 2022 #132

Queer isn't an insult iemanja Mar 2022 #134

Tell that to the people who try to use that word as an insult. beaglelover Mar 2022 #139

He's anti-gay. He wants to deny you rights, yet he feminizes himself. Of course, it is funny. Doodley Mar 2022 #131

I have seen few such incidences of what you describe...I suggest following the TOS rules to deal Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #124

that doesn't always work iemanja Mar 2022 #135

So many instances, and most go unhidden obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #141

There are other insults that do not involve gender. LiberalFighter Mar 2022 #125