Heard some disturbing things on Hartman's program this week

[Bernardo de La Paz]

138. What is it with people can't provide links? And that is not what is claimed

Why is it such a great difficulty for all these people pumping out this stuff against Hartmann to provide the links.

We have to do your work for you, because we are even handed:

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/11/3/2061984/-Last-Night-s-Election-Proves-America-is-Standing-on-the-Edge-of-a-New-Populism

And the second quote, we have to dig it up the link for you.

"neoliberal system Reagan and Clinton pioneered is collapsing"

https://hartmannreport.com/p/america-is-standing-on-the-edge-of

So, having done your work for you, we can address your point:

I think it is a reasonable criticism to say that the Democratic Party is too beholden to wealthy donors. It is debatable. But it is certainly a point held by many on here on DU. Do you condemn them for "sabotaging" the Democratic Party?

Essentially Hartmann is saying that the party could do better by taking a more populist way. That is not carrying Putin's water. It's a reasonable discussion of strategic direction.

But more exactly Hartmann was not attacking the Party with the second quote. He was saying that the populist Sanders part was being sabotaged by other parts. Do you feel there is truth to some of that?

But the Democratic Party as a whole missed it, although progressives within the Party totally understood what’s going on and have worked hard to have the Party meet this progressive populist moment. But they’re being sabotaged by the neoliberal old guard who’re still deeply embedded in their wealthy and corporate donors’ Citizen’s United cocoon.

The neoliberal system Reagan and Clinton pioneered is collapsing under its own weight of corruption and bloated, obscene wealth; like flowers coming out of a cow patty, two new populist movements have been birthed.

Do you feel that anyone who writes here on DU against neoliberals is sabotaging the party?
Do you feel that Clinton had no part in a neoliberal (whatever that is) orientation of parts of the party?
Do you feel that neoliberals should be universally condemned or universally praised or is there room for debate about positions in the middle of that spectrum? Debate including Hartmann's position?



But rather than have that discussion about the direction of the Democratic Party, FreepFryer chose to derail the thread with the first post by attacking the man, not his words.