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65. Have you got a different picture of the Federal Highway in the St. Petersburg region?

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Mon Mar 28, 2022, 01:35 PM

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Ukraine is rich. Russia is poor. (Interesting twitter thread): [View all] Tomconroy Mar 2022 OP

Putin went there to steal their treasury. Cracklin Charlie Mar 2022 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #8

How ya gonna keep them deep in the steppes... sanatanadharma Mar 2022 #2

LOL!!122 jpak Mar 2022 #3

Ukraine WAS rich Silent3 Mar 2022 #4

More nonsense from twitter. former9thward Mar 2022 #5

Have you traveled in Ukraine? They have nice subways too. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #7

Yes, once former9thward Mar 2022 #11

As you admit, Ukraine is "a very nice country." You can't say the same for Russia. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #15

As you admit, Ukraine is "a very nice country." You can't say the same for Russia. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #16

No Russia does not have dirt roads that serve as major highways. former9thward Mar 2022 #19

Have you got a different picture of the Federal Highway in the St. Petersburg region? SunSeeker Mar 2022 #65

M10 highway (Russia) bluewater Mar 2022 #74

You are referring to the connection between Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia's two richest cities. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #79

What's the geo-location of that picture? We should explore that. bluewater Mar 2022 #83

Are you by any chance referring to the Smolensk subway or the Yakutsk subway? Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #12

For starters: former9thward Mar 2022 #14

The Twitter thread was not about subways. It was about pay, hospitals and roads. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #20

I guess you didn't read the thread. former9thward Mar 2022 #21

I did read the thread. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #22

My bad. With one line and an averaage of less than 15 stations each, they are easy to overlook. Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #27

How many systems does the richest country in the world have? former9thward Mar 2022 #64

The US famously sucks at public transport. What's your point? nt SunSeeker Mar 2022 #66

No clue. Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #91

and absolute nonsense it is. bluewater Mar 2022 #17

As Sergej Sumlenny notes in his Twitter thread, Russia income stats are distorted. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #29

And yet the World Bank seems to disagree with Sergej... bluewater Mar 2022 #35

That's GDP per capita, not income. Russia's GDP is basically oil, which enriches oligarchs. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #37

The United Nations Development Programme's Human Development Index disagrees with you. bluewater Mar 2022 #45

A sobering statistic. Still, it doesn't invalidate the OP or the tweet thread it refers to. Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #42

But The United Nations Development Programme 's Human Development Index does bluewater Mar 2022 #46

It does not. The data you are citing is quite outdated. Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #57

The UN HDI data was from 2020 and the IDHI data from 2019. Do you have more recent data? bluewater Mar 2022 #63

I don't have more recent data. Neither do you. Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #90

Hey, it's time to thank you for the discussion. bluewater Mar 2022 #92

Your empirical assertions do not negate anything in the OP, and that's the entirety of my response. Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #93

Not Sure Where They Got Those Numbers ProfessorGAC Mar 2022 #67

We you in the subway Dorian Gray Mar 2022 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author Tomconroy Mar 2022 #56

Many of the conscripts came from a farming or logging village in BF Russia haele Mar 2022 #6

I grew up in an extremely rural area of the US obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #23

This is what Putin fears more than NATO Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #9

Exactly. nt SunSeeker Mar 2022 #10

Ukraine is not rich, Ukraine was the third poorest country in Europe in 2021 bluewater Mar 2022 #13

Both can be true Ex Lurker Mar 2022 #18

And yet Ukraine in 2021 was twice as poor as Russia. bluewater Mar 2022 #25

You're cherry picking income stats, which are distorted for Russia. Look at quality of life stats. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #33

The World Bank disagrees, and what would they know, right? bluewater Mar 2022 #38

The World Bank does not disagree that Ukraine has a higher quality of life than Russia. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #41

You keep cherry picking because the United Nations Development Programme also disagrees with you bluewater Mar 2022 #43

No, the UNDP does not disagree with me. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #47

You keep IGNORING the second UN index adjusted for INCOME INEQUALITY bluewater Mar 2022 #55

No, I'm not. It STILL uses gross income per capita. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #58

"I can't figure out how the UN claims it is filtering out the income distortion of Russia's oil" LOL bluewater Mar 2022 #62

See post 68. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #69

Circular argument noted. bluewater Mar 2022 #71

Russian income stats are distorted, that's a fact not a "circular argument." SunSeeker Mar 2022 #75

The fact is someone is ignoring an in depth and ongoing study from the United Nations bluewater Mar 2022 #78

The UN study is not as in depth as the World Population Review. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #80

"The UN study is not as in depth as the World Population Review." LOL bluewater Mar 2022 #84

The World Population Review used a lot more data sets than the UN. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #85

HEY!! You CHERRY PICKED your numbers from that WorldPopulationReview's table!!! bluewater Mar 2022 #94

See post 98. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #99

You CHERRY PICKED and made a very false claim to boot bluewater Mar 2022 #103

See post 104. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #105

How is that disagreeing? kcr Mar 2022 #96

The United Nations Development Programme also disagrees with you bluewater Mar 2022 #40

No, it doesn't. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #44

Yes, it does. You don't seem to understand what the UN's Human Development Index is: bluewater Mar 2022 #48

List of countries by inequality-adjusted Human Development Index bluewater Mar 2022 #50

Nope. Again, your stats use gross income per capita, distorted by Russia's oil industry. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #51

You just IGNORED when the UN adjusted for INCOME INEQUALITY in another report bluewater Mar 2022 #53

No, I'm not. It STILL uses gross income per capita. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #59

"I can't figure out how the UN claims it is filtering out the income distortion of Russia's oil" LOL bluewater Mar 2022 #60

The UN admits IT STILL USES PER GROSS INCOME PER CAPITA in both stats SunSeeker Mar 2022 #68

And UN's United Nations Development Programme is wrong just because you say so? bluewater Mar 2022 #73

See post 75. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #76

Your rebuttal to the United Nation Development Programme report's is "World Population Review"?!? bluewater Mar 2022 #81

See post 85. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #87

The United Nations versus Shane Fulmer's little company... who should we believe most? bluewater Mar 2022 #88

OMG, you CHERRY PICKED results from the WorldPopulationReview table!!!! bluewater Mar 2022 #95

See post 98. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #100

You just CHERRY PICKED, CEO World did indeed CONSIDER affordability bluewater Mar 2022 #102

See post 104. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #106

Interesting, the responses this thread drew. Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #24

And some people rather believe twitter than reliable news sources and data. bluewater Mar 2022 #26

Why would this rustle your jimmies so much? Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #28

Digging up stats, to use your words, "rustles your jimmies" for some reason? bluewater Mar 2022 #31

You should go back to constantly demoralizing us about Mariupol... Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #32

LOL SunSeeker Mar 2022 #34

And why would posting on the carnage happening in Mariupol bother anyone? bluewater Mar 2022 #36

Why do you dig up stats you know are distorted by Russia's oil industry? SunSeeker Mar 2022 #49

You keep ignoring this - List of countries by inequality-adjusted Human Development Index bluewater Mar 2022 #52

Both UN stats you keep citing still use gross income per capita. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #54

"I can't figure out how the UN claims..." LOL, obviously. bluewater Mar 2022 #61

See post 68. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #70

That prior post offers no real response. bluewater Mar 2022 #72

See post 75. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #77

Offering a small company's report against the United Nation Development Programme's studies? bluewater Mar 2022 #82

See post 85. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #86

Hmm, Shane Fulmer's small company or the United Nations... I wonder who might be more correct? bluewater Mar 2022 #89

CHERRY PICKING data from the Worldpopulation review's table? Yes and easily proven. bluewater Mar 2022 #97

No. WPR surveyed various studies and found the Numbeo QoL to be "one of the most comprehensive." SunSeeker Mar 2022 #98

CEOWORLD analyzed 10 key categories: Affordability... so, you just CHERRY PICKED LOL bluewater Mar 2022 #101

Affordability is not the same as purchasing power. Affordable to whom? SunSeeker Mar 2022 #104

So now it's down to semantics? Seems so. LOL bluewater Mar 2022 #107

Yep. nt SunSeeker Mar 2022 #30