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bluewater

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82. Offering a small company's report against the United Nation Development Programme's studies?
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 02:48 PM
Mar 2022

Last edited Mon Mar 28, 2022, 03:19 PM - Edit history (1)

Wow.

According to Media Bias/Fact Check:

Founded in 2011 by Shane Fulmer, World Population Review is a website dedicated to global population data and trends.
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This is a straight-up data-driven website with minimal bias. However, they sometimes utilize controversial sources such as data from Richard Lynn, who calculated IQ by country. His study has been accused of being racially biased.

Overall, we rate World Population Review Least Biased based on providing data with minimal bias. We also rate them Mostly Factual rather than High due to the occasional use of poor sources. (D. Van Zandt 11/5/2019) Updated (5/09/2021)

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/world-population-review/


It's founded by Shane Fulmer, and his personal website gives us some insight into his level of professionalism compared to the United Nations'.

I'm a freelance web developer living in Lancaster, PA. I love working on projects across the stack, but am currently focused on front-end development using React. I also enjoy writing C# applications and experimenting with data visualization. Aside from programming, I enjoy traveling, listening to music, and playing/watching sports.

https://www.shanefulmer.com/#/


To suggest that Shane Fulmer and his small company should be given equal weight to the United Nations Human Development Programme is, well, nonsensical.


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Putin went there to steal their treasury. Cracklin Charlie Mar 2022 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #8
How ya gonna keep them deep in the steppes... sanatanadharma Mar 2022 #2
LOL!!122 jpak Mar 2022 #3
Ukraine WAS rich Silent3 Mar 2022 #4
More nonsense from twitter. former9thward Mar 2022 #5
Have you traveled in Ukraine? They have nice subways too. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #7
Yes, once former9thward Mar 2022 #11
As you admit, Ukraine is "a very nice country." You can't say the same for Russia. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #15
As you admit, Ukraine is "a very nice country." You can't say the same for Russia. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #16
No Russia does not have dirt roads that serve as major highways. former9thward Mar 2022 #19
Have you got a different picture of the Federal Highway in the St. Petersburg region? SunSeeker Mar 2022 #65
M10 highway (Russia) bluewater Mar 2022 #74
You are referring to the connection between Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia's two richest cities. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #79
What's the geo-location of that picture? We should explore that. bluewater Mar 2022 #83
Are you by any chance referring to the Smolensk subway or the Yakutsk subway? Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #12
For starters: former9thward Mar 2022 #14
The Twitter thread was not about subways. It was about pay, hospitals and roads. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #20
I guess you didn't read the thread. former9thward Mar 2022 #21
I did read the thread. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #22
My bad. With one line and an averaage of less than 15 stations each, they are easy to overlook. Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #27
How many systems does the richest country in the world have? former9thward Mar 2022 #64
The US famously sucks at public transport. What's your point? nt SunSeeker Mar 2022 #66
No clue. Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #91
and absolute nonsense it is. bluewater Mar 2022 #17
As Sergej Sumlenny notes in his Twitter thread, Russia income stats are distorted. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #29
And yet the World Bank seems to disagree with Sergej... bluewater Mar 2022 #35
That's GDP per capita, not income. Russia's GDP is basically oil, which enriches oligarchs. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #37
The United Nations Development Programme's Human Development Index disagrees with you. bluewater Mar 2022 #45
A sobering statistic. Still, it doesn't invalidate the OP or the tweet thread it refers to. Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #42
But The United Nations Development Programme 's Human Development Index does bluewater Mar 2022 #46
It does not. The data you are citing is quite outdated. Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #57
The UN HDI data was from 2020 and the IDHI data from 2019. Do you have more recent data? bluewater Mar 2022 #63
I don't have more recent data. Neither do you. Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #90
Hey, it's time to thank you for the discussion. bluewater Mar 2022 #92
Your empirical assertions do not negate anything in the OP, and that's the entirety of my response. Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #93
Not Sure Where They Got Those Numbers ProfessorGAC Mar 2022 #67
We you in the subway Dorian Gray Mar 2022 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author Tomconroy Mar 2022 #56
Many of the conscripts came from a farming or logging village in BF Russia haele Mar 2022 #6
I grew up in an extremely rural area of the US obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #23
This is what Putin fears more than NATO Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #9
Exactly. nt SunSeeker Mar 2022 #10
Ukraine is not rich, Ukraine was the third poorest country in Europe in 2021 bluewater Mar 2022 #13
Both can be true Ex Lurker Mar 2022 #18
And yet Ukraine in 2021 was twice as poor as Russia. bluewater Mar 2022 #25
You're cherry picking income stats, which are distorted for Russia. Look at quality of life stats. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #33
The World Bank disagrees, and what would they know, right? bluewater Mar 2022 #38
The World Bank does not disagree that Ukraine has a higher quality of life than Russia. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #41
You keep cherry picking because the United Nations Development Programme also disagrees with you bluewater Mar 2022 #43
No, the UNDP does not disagree with me. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #47
You keep IGNORING the second UN index adjusted for INCOME INEQUALITY bluewater Mar 2022 #55
No, I'm not. It STILL uses gross income per capita. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #58
"I can't figure out how the UN claims it is filtering out the income distortion of Russia's oil" LOL bluewater Mar 2022 #62
See post 68. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #69
Circular argument noted. bluewater Mar 2022 #71
Russian income stats are distorted, that's a fact not a "circular argument." SunSeeker Mar 2022 #75
The fact is someone is ignoring an in depth and ongoing study from the United Nations bluewater Mar 2022 #78
The UN study is not as in depth as the World Population Review. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #80
"The UN study is not as in depth as the World Population Review." LOL bluewater Mar 2022 #84
The World Population Review used a lot more data sets than the UN. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #85
HEY!! You CHERRY PICKED your numbers from that WorldPopulationReview's table!!! bluewater Mar 2022 #94
See post 98. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #99
You CHERRY PICKED and made a very false claim to boot bluewater Mar 2022 #103
See post 104. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #105
How is that disagreeing? kcr Mar 2022 #96
The United Nations Development Programme also disagrees with you bluewater Mar 2022 #40
No, it doesn't. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #44
Yes, it does. You don't seem to understand what the UN's Human Development Index is: bluewater Mar 2022 #48
List of countries by inequality-adjusted Human Development Index bluewater Mar 2022 #50
Nope. Again, your stats use gross income per capita, distorted by Russia's oil industry. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #51
You just IGNORED when the UN adjusted for INCOME INEQUALITY in another report bluewater Mar 2022 #53
No, I'm not. It STILL uses gross income per capita. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #59
"I can't figure out how the UN claims it is filtering out the income distortion of Russia's oil" LOL bluewater Mar 2022 #60
The UN admits IT STILL USES PER GROSS INCOME PER CAPITA in both stats SunSeeker Mar 2022 #68
And UN's United Nations Development Programme is wrong just because you say so? bluewater Mar 2022 #73
See post 75. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #76
Your rebuttal to the United Nation Development Programme report's is "World Population Review"?!? bluewater Mar 2022 #81
See post 85. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #87
The United Nations versus Shane Fulmer's little company... who should we believe most? bluewater Mar 2022 #88
OMG, you CHERRY PICKED results from the WorldPopulationReview table!!!! bluewater Mar 2022 #95
See post 98. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #100
You just CHERRY PICKED, CEO World did indeed CONSIDER affordability bluewater Mar 2022 #102
See post 104. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #106
Interesting, the responses this thread drew. Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #24
And some people rather believe twitter than reliable news sources and data. bluewater Mar 2022 #26
Why would this rustle your jimmies so much? Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #28
Digging up stats, to use your words, "rustles your jimmies" for some reason? bluewater Mar 2022 #31
You should go back to constantly demoralizing us about Mariupol... Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #32
LOL SunSeeker Mar 2022 #34
And why would posting on the carnage happening in Mariupol bother anyone? bluewater Mar 2022 #36
Why do you dig up stats you know are distorted by Russia's oil industry? SunSeeker Mar 2022 #49
You keep ignoring this - List of countries by inequality-adjusted Human Development Index bluewater Mar 2022 #52
Both UN stats you keep citing still use gross income per capita. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #54
"I can't figure out how the UN claims..." LOL, obviously. bluewater Mar 2022 #61
See post 68. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #70
That prior post offers no real response. bluewater Mar 2022 #72
See post 75. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #77
Offering a small company's report against the United Nation Development Programme's studies? bluewater Mar 2022 #82
See post 85. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #86
Hmm, Shane Fulmer's small company or the United Nations... I wonder who might be more correct? bluewater Mar 2022 #89
CHERRY PICKING data from the Worldpopulation review's table? Yes and easily proven. bluewater Mar 2022 #97
No. WPR surveyed various studies and found the Numbeo QoL to be "one of the most comprehensive." SunSeeker Mar 2022 #98
CEOWORLD analyzed 10 key categories: Affordability... so, you just CHERRY PICKED LOL bluewater Mar 2022 #101
Affordability is not the same as purchasing power. Affordable to whom? SunSeeker Mar 2022 #104
So now it's down to semantics? Seems so. LOL bluewater Mar 2022 #107
Yep. nt SunSeeker Mar 2022 #30
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