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In reply to the discussion: Ukraine is rich. Russia is poor. (Interesting twitter thread): [View all]bluewater
(5,420 posts)82. Offering a small company's report against the United Nation Development Programme's studies?
Last edited Mon Mar 28, 2022, 03:19 PM - Edit history (1)
Wow.
According to Media Bias/Fact Check:
Founded in 2011 by Shane Fulmer, World Population Review is a website dedicated to global population data and trends.
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This is a straight-up data-driven website with minimal bias. However, they sometimes utilize controversial sources such as data from Richard Lynn, who calculated IQ by country. His study has been accused of being racially biased.
Overall, we rate World Population Review Least Biased based on providing data with minimal bias. We also rate them Mostly Factual rather than High due to the occasional use of poor sources. (D. Van Zandt 11/5/2019) Updated (5/09/2021)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/world-population-review/
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This is a straight-up data-driven website with minimal bias. However, they sometimes utilize controversial sources such as data from Richard Lynn, who calculated IQ by country. His study has been accused of being racially biased.
Overall, we rate World Population Review Least Biased based on providing data with minimal bias. We also rate them Mostly Factual rather than High due to the occasional use of poor sources. (D. Van Zandt 11/5/2019) Updated (5/09/2021)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/world-population-review/
It's founded by Shane Fulmer, and his personal website gives us some insight into his level of professionalism compared to the United Nations'.
I'm a freelance web developer living in Lancaster, PA. I love working on projects across the stack, but am currently focused on front-end development using React. I also enjoy writing C# applications and experimenting with data visualization. Aside from programming, I enjoy traveling, listening to music, and playing/watching sports.
https://www.shanefulmer.com/#/
https://www.shanefulmer.com/#/
To suggest that Shane Fulmer and his small company should be given equal weight to the United Nations Human Development Programme is, well, nonsensical.
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As you admit, Ukraine is "a very nice country." You can't say the same for Russia.
SunSeeker
Mar 2022
#15
As you admit, Ukraine is "a very nice country." You can't say the same for Russia.
SunSeeker
Mar 2022
#16
Have you got a different picture of the Federal Highway in the St. Petersburg region?
SunSeeker
Mar 2022
#65
You are referring to the connection between Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia's two richest cities.
SunSeeker
Mar 2022
#79
Are you by any chance referring to the Smolensk subway or the Yakutsk subway?
Beastly Boy
Mar 2022
#12
The Twitter thread was not about subways. It was about pay, hospitals and roads.
SunSeeker
Mar 2022
#20
My bad. With one line and an averaage of less than 15 stations each, they are easy to overlook.
Beastly Boy
Mar 2022
#27
As Sergej Sumlenny notes in his Twitter thread, Russia income stats are distorted.
SunSeeker
Mar 2022
#29
That's GDP per capita, not income. Russia's GDP is basically oil, which enriches oligarchs.
SunSeeker
Mar 2022
#37
The United Nations Development Programme's Human Development Index disagrees with you.
bluewater
Mar 2022
#45
A sobering statistic. Still, it doesn't invalidate the OP or the tweet thread it refers to.
Beastly Boy
Mar 2022
#42
The UN HDI data was from 2020 and the IDHI data from 2019. Do you have more recent data?
bluewater
Mar 2022
#63
Your empirical assertions do not negate anything in the OP, and that's the entirety of my response.
Beastly Boy
Mar 2022
#93
You're cherry picking income stats, which are distorted for Russia. Look at quality of life stats.
SunSeeker
Mar 2022
#33
The World Bank does not disagree that Ukraine has a higher quality of life than Russia.
SunSeeker
Mar 2022
#41
You keep cherry picking because the United Nations Development Programme also disagrees with you
bluewater
Mar 2022
#43
"I can't figure out how the UN claims it is filtering out the income distortion of Russia's oil" LOL
bluewater
Mar 2022
#62
The fact is someone is ignoring an in depth and ongoing study from the United Nations
bluewater
Mar 2022
#78
HEY!! You CHERRY PICKED your numbers from that WorldPopulationReview's table!!!
bluewater
Mar 2022
#94
Yes, it does. You don't seem to understand what the UN's Human Development Index is:
bluewater
Mar 2022
#48
Nope. Again, your stats use gross income per capita, distorted by Russia's oil industry.
SunSeeker
Mar 2022
#51
You just IGNORED when the UN adjusted for INCOME INEQUALITY in another report
bluewater
Mar 2022
#53
"I can't figure out how the UN claims it is filtering out the income distortion of Russia's oil" LOL
bluewater
Mar 2022
#60
And UN's United Nations Development Programme is wrong just because you say so?
bluewater
Mar 2022
#73
Your rebuttal to the United Nation Development Programme report's is "World Population Review"?!?
bluewater
Mar 2022
#81
The United Nations versus Shane Fulmer's little company... who should we believe most?
bluewater
Mar 2022
#88
You keep ignoring this - List of countries by inequality-adjusted Human Development Index
bluewater
Mar 2022
#52
Offering a small company's report against the United Nation Development Programme's studies?
bluewater
Mar 2022
#82
Hmm, Shane Fulmer's small company or the United Nations... I wonder who might be more correct?
bluewater
Mar 2022
#89
CHERRY PICKING data from the Worldpopulation review's table? Yes and easily proven.
bluewater
Mar 2022
#97
No. WPR surveyed various studies and found the Numbeo QoL to be "one of the most comprehensive."
SunSeeker
Mar 2022
#98
CEOWORLD analyzed 10 key categories: Affordability... so, you just CHERRY PICKED LOL
bluewater
Mar 2022
#101