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31. How would this be worse than Katrina?

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Sun Oct 28, 2012, 05:46 PM

Oct 2012

The 5.6 rating (out of 6) is worse than Katrina.

What would make Sandy worse than Katrina? For these weather guys to state that they've never seen a storm like this in their lifetimes--is quite jarring.

Is it the storm surge combined with the large size of Sandy? Katrina's storm surge was 24-26 feet high. Sandy's has been revised upward to 12 feet for NYC.

Would a larger, slower storm be more dangerous...because it would create prolonged storm surges that would cause extended time periods in which 12-foot storm surges rush in. If that sea water, elevated 12 feet higher than usual keeps rushing in for hours and hours, I cann see where this would be a catastrophe as great as (and possibly worse than) Katrina.

Anyone else want to weigh in on why and how Sandy could exceed Katrina in terms of strength and/or damage?

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Lawd! I have NEVER seen this from the NWS before: [View all] Are_grits_groceries Oct 2012 OP

Holy Shit !!! - That's Some Message !!! WillyT Oct 2012 #1

Holy Shit !!! - is about it! calimary Oct 2012 #161

I hope people listen. graywarrior Oct 2012 #2

If anybody stays, Are_grits_groceries Oct 2012 #5

Down here in the Gulf of Mexico area dixiegrrrrl Oct 2012 #34

I've heard that story, and I believe it. Mariana Oct 2012 #84

Yup - I've seen folks put their ss# on their arm in perm marker TBF Oct 2012 #85

Torso is better than an appendage Care Acutely Oct 2012 #98

Grim but important - yes that makes more sense. nt TBF Oct 2012 #115

Guess where I am. Boston. trof Oct 2012 #124

GULP!!!!!!! dixiegrrrrl Oct 2012 #158

Yeah, ain't that dumb. We're fine. trof Oct 2012 #164

And that's the key to it all right there. kentauros Oct 2012 #7

There are some guys I know who can't wait to drive down to the beach graywarrior Oct 2012 #15

Are they surfers? kentauros Oct 2012 #17

No, they're fuckface idiots graywarrior Oct 2012 #42

Oh, okay. kentauros Oct 2012 #43

Yeah, I saw some surfers and kiters earlier on the beach graywarrior Oct 2012 #53

I rode 13-foot swells at Freeport, TX DollarBillHines Oct 2012 #153

In 1954, my dad took by 4 year old brother out in the wind graywarrior Oct 2012 #159

Did we have the same dad? DollarBillHines Oct 2012 #160

LOL, that's hilarious! graywarrior Oct 2012 #163

I am from the Midwest, but I lived... CoffeeCat Oct 2012 #51

They have hurricane parties at houses on the beach graywarrior Oct 2012 #54

As I child in Miami, I had been through many hurricanes. RebelOne Oct 2012 #149

True. graywarrior Oct 2012 #150

We lived in Queens during Gloria HockeyMom Oct 2012 #67

We're such an advanced society, yet every time there's a storm, we lose power. graywarrior Oct 2012 #78

Many of them earned Darwin Awards. dixiegrrrrl Oct 2012 #86

I was on the south side of the Cape Warpy Oct 2012 #145

Sounds like natural selection in action hootinholler Oct 2012 #83

*snort* graywarrior Oct 2012 #142

By the way, thank you Warpy Oct 2012 #146

You're welcome graywarrior Oct 2012 #147

It isn't THAT the wind is blowin'! FrodosPet Oct 2012 #100

Except femrap Oct 2012 #73

heh. BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2012 #89

gw, what kind of cat is that? The Wielding Truth Oct 2012 #131

This message was self-deleted by its author Sentath Oct 2012 #134

I've been wondering the same thing for months! It looks chucacabrarish Hestia Oct 2012 #144

Pallas DollarBillHines Oct 2012 #155

Pallas Cat DollarBillHines Oct 2012 #154

I hope everyone in this monster storm's path takes this advice VERY seriously... Spazito Oct 2012 #3

sounds like the freak we had in 1962 MFM008 Oct 2012 #4

Ah, yes, the storm of 2006, remember it well tavalon Oct 2012 #126

I was in the Columbus Day storm Spirochete Oct 2012 #137

You must have a short memory. Harry Monroe Oct 2012 #6

Wow you posted this as I was typing mine Gman Oct 2012 #11

Was there a personal plea Are_grits_groceries Oct 2012 #12

The bulletin was written by Robert Ricks a meteorologist with the New Orleans/Baton Rouge NWS office Harry Monroe Oct 2012 #19

Yes! I believe a competent and experienced Are_grits_groceries Oct 2012 #26

That wasn't a 'Personal' plea. underseasurveyor Oct 2012 #24

I remember on CNN laundry_queen Oct 2012 #133

I remember that too. underseasurveyor Oct 2012 #162

Most of the people who could evacuate NOLA did TexasBushwhacker Oct 2012 #36

Has it been done now? forthemiddle Oct 2012 #44

The states and local governments Are_grits_groceries Oct 2012 #48

my wording "group" was wrong forthemiddle Oct 2012 #55

This is when I finally wrote off the right wing as utterly unworthy of coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #92

But...but...nobody could have expected it.... garthranzz Oct 2012 #60

Lest anyone think I'm trying to get into some kind of little battle here Harry Monroe Oct 2012 #75

And yes, I went through Katrina in New Orleans. Harry Monroe Oct 2012 #76

Just to clarify, I am agreeing with you on all points garthranzz Oct 2012 #90

I also have family in Sandy's path and am thankful we have a President who's an adult.. mountain grammy Oct 2012 #119

sociopaths usually are tavalon Oct 2012 #127

I went through Katrina Aerows Oct 2012 #129

I doubt anyone has seen that kind of warning to the people living along the northern East Coast.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #70

He must not have covered Katrina Gman Oct 2012 #8

"NOAA says destructive potential of #Sandy storm surge is 5.7 on 6.0-scale. Higher than Katrina." nt Comrade_McKenzie Oct 2012 #20

The geography of the Gulf area is much more receptive to surges bettyellen Oct 2012 #40

Sandy covers a massive amount of ocean magical thyme Oct 2012 #93

Still darlin' suffragette Oct 2012 #109

OMG, been too long!! It's so nice to see you here. ;-) bettyellen Oct 2012 #110

Way, way too long, my dear. suffragette Oct 2012 #114

It's been embellished a bit (Edited) dems_rightnow Oct 2012 #9

I am speechless malaise Oct 2012 #10

I know what to say nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #13

How to hit the message home to the other side that theinquisitivechad Oct 2012 #94

It will take a few more nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #95

Wow! underseasurveyor Oct 2012 #14

If they turn out to be wrong, good luck with the warnings next time... reformist2 Oct 2012 #16

Have you seen the damage ahead of it already? nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #21

I'm looking at maps showing 3-4" of rain for NYC and 5-6' storm surges. Not exactly TEOTWAWKI. reformist2 Oct 2012 #28

The surge for NYC is actually higher than Donna nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #30

Most of Irene's damage was due to the rain RoccoR5955 Oct 2012 #71

It is one strange storm nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #72

this is just crazy johnt_1956_55 Oct 2012 #18

For those of you pooh-poohing this Are_grits_groceries Oct 2012 #22

Or, to put it another way... dixiegrrrrl Oct 2012 #41

This one is hitting an extremely densely populated area. JDPriestly Oct 2012 #50

I heard one of the weather guys say 60 inches of snow possible in some areas too. jackbenimble Oct 2012 #62

This is a Megastorm though Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2012 #23

I can... DirtyDawg Oct 2012 #25

Yeah this doesn't matter right now. We "liberals" would do well to practice what we preach now. nolabear Oct 2012 #59

Here is the complete briefing from Gary Szatkowski this afternoon James48 Oct 2012 #27

Thanks, THAT IS ONE UGLY... **^*^ nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #33

Wow! Spazito Oct 2012 #49

Looks like people on the Jersey shore near me are heeding the warning. bklyncowgirl Oct 2012 #29

How would this be worse than Katrina? CoffeeCat Oct 2012 #31

The number of people Are_grits_groceries Oct 2012 #38

Becauase you have three low pressure systems coming together nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #39

In terms of damage? jberryhill Oct 2012 #58

People die from drowning during storms. It's the flooding that kills. yardwork Oct 2012 #68

Not "prolonged storm surges", kentauros Oct 2012 #103

Minor Quibble jeff47 Oct 2012 #123

I've noticed that your name isn't showing up much on the hurricane threads, kentauros Oct 2012 #125

A very large portion of the threads today are about the hurricane jeff47 Oct 2012 #151

I pay attention to who posts kentauros Oct 2012 #156

The storm is about 1,000 miles in diameter, as I understand it. antigone382 Oct 2012 #108

high wind and flooding alert along the lake michigan shoreline... madrchsod Oct 2012 #32

Make up your mind NOW! dinger130 Oct 2012 #35

There will be ( there always is) miles and miles of cars dixiegrrrrl Oct 2012 #45

Of course press will nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #47

My brother lives just north of Ocean City, Md and he left this morning randr Oct 2012 #37

Good move. Ocean City looks to be in a very bad spot with this storm. marmar Oct 2012 #46

Good. Smart brother. ItsTheMediaStupid Oct 2012 #57

I'm curious: To where? Nowhere in PA is really "safe," e.g. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #61

Most of PA is "safe" as far as evacuations go. ToxMarz Oct 2012 #74

He is with my other brother in Newark, Del. randr Oct 2012 #81

My understanding is fingrinn Oct 2012 #52

I read a comment from my local news site... liberalmuse Oct 2012 #56

This happens every time nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #64

Hell, I'm even batting down the hatches and staying inside this weekend!! Major Hogwash Oct 2012 #63

Batten down the hatches. deaniac21 Oct 2012 #77

No matter how prepared you are things could still happen. Seriously people listen southernyankeebelle Oct 2012 #65

Wow.... just wow... nt ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #66

Its scary thinking 1938....the surge. Historic NY Oct 2012 #69

Well, I'm here on Long Island and the storm has been... TreasonousBastard Oct 2012 #79

Would you say that most people in NYC... CoffeeCat Oct 2012 #111

low lying areas mostly.. Historic NY Oct 2012 #112

I haven't lived in the city for 30 years, but I'm guessing most will stay put... TreasonousBastard Oct 2012 #113

Yes, our power lines suck. Jennicut Oct 2012 #121

Here in the DC area, the WP weather folks are rating this an 8 on the scale when the derecho is a 10 amandabeech Oct 2012 #80

Wishing for safety for all of you in the path of this storm. luv_mykatz Oct 2012 #82

Becoming a hybrid vortex over the east coast HeeBGBz Oct 2012 #87

Jim Cantore said exactly the same thing last year about Irene ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #88

New York he missed it, for the city nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #96

There are storms that go unnamed and never have a bit of hype that do great damage as well ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #101

Tell you what nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #102

The OP references Jim Cantore ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #104

Re-read it. nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #105

No, enough ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #106

Good nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #107

Hey it looks like the media nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #135

Can't let it go, eh? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #136

Turn your tv off nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #138

LOL....I've never had it on ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #139

So let me get this straight nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #140

Was Jim Cantore referenced in the OP? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #141

No Offense, but nobody in Connecticut can forget Irene. NutmegYankee Oct 2012 #97

I knew I forgot some. nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #99

Bigger and better formed storms. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2012 #91

Spoke to my sister in Queens last night. Javaman Oct 2012 #116

Have you seen these satellite pics? Update #13 shows comparison between Irene & Sandy YOW Voice for Peace Oct 2012 #117

Great site, they keep updating.. now with pics of NY flooding, river overflowed banks Voice for Peace Oct 2012 #130

To add: Please, please, please take your pets catrose Oct 2012 #118

All I have to say is look at these projections Jennicut Oct 2012 #120

I posted this on Facebook PatSeg Oct 2012 #122

PatSeg, did you have a picture? The Wielding Truth Oct 2012 #132

Just the graphic that was posted here PatSeg Oct 2012 #152

I live in Richmond, WCLinolVir Oct 2012 #128

He needed to add the one more step that Galveston PC added fo Ike - if you choose to stay, ..... marble falls Oct 2012 #143

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2012 #148

Stay safe everyone arikara Oct 2012 #157