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45. Putin told us he wants all of Ukraine. He said it straight out

Wed Mar 30, 2022, 07:56 AM

Mar 2022

He’s said Ukraine is a “fake” artificial country. He firmly believes (for many years now), that the breakup of the Soviet Union was a tragedy and these ex-satellite states need to be brought back under the Russian umbrella.

New revelations of his messianic thinking about Russian supremacy are just added impetus.

I believe Putin is going to try to just settle for a land bridge and the resources in the Ukrainian south, but I wouldn’t discount Ukrainian fury combined with western military assistance. They’ve been fighting to re-take the Luhansk and Donetsk regions back for 8 years. I sincerely doubt they’re going to let Putin “settle” for any part of their country anymore

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What if Putin didn't miscalculate? [View all] Tomconroy Mar 2022 OP

K&R! SheltieLover Mar 2022 #1

russia can't find buyers for most of their resources today - adding more is not helping their samsingh Mar 2022 #38

I think that analysis presupposes several things going Putin's way that are not likely Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2022 #2

Good analysis NJCher Mar 2022 #16

Wars are usually not about people but about resources of some kind bucolic_frolic Mar 2022 #3

Difficult to find any war that wasn't fundamentally about resources sarge43 Mar 2022 #7

Actually NJCher Mar 2022 #20

+1. interesting stopdiggin Mar 2022 #36

Bush jr invaded a sovereign country because of he ego....Cheney Ferrets are Cool Mar 2022 #41

would a guy who puts out photo ops like this NJCher Mar 2022 #50

When you are a dictator, you don't have to worry about your MA opponents Ferrets are Cool Mar 2022 #55

macho decisions are based on emotions NJCher Mar 2022 #56

No, he's a miscalculating loser. His goal was clear from the accidentally-published "victory lap" JHB Mar 2022 #4

This👍🏻 louslobbs Mar 2022 #34

That analysis isn't even remotely correct Steven Maurer Mar 2022 #5

THAT, I think, might be too much optimism stopdiggin Mar 2022 #37

I've been following this closely Steven Maurer Mar 2022 #64

with respect for you observations .. stopdiggin Mar 2022 #66

Oh, he can certainly still cause a lot of property damage to be sure... Steven Maurer Mar 2022 #68

Its going to be tough to get the Russians OUT of south & east UKR. oldsoftie Mar 2022 #43

So Russia is cool with bankrupting itself and having it's military considered a laughing stock. Oh mucifer Mar 2022 #6

Putin don't give a shit about no dead generals. He fells like Trump.... 3Hotdogs Mar 2022 #19

Europe and in particular Germany continue to subsidize Tomconroy Mar 2022 #57

Beau disagrees... Starfury Mar 2022 #8

Wow.. who is this guy? Absolutely fascinating! Thanks Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2022 #46

Beau has been a staple of the Video section on right-hand side of DU home page. erronis Mar 2022 #48

Thank you, I will! Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2022 #49

A recipe for a forever war that would break Russia BeyondGeography Mar 2022 #9

I just read the paper copy of Bret Stephens' analysis harumph Mar 2022 #10

Neo-con climate change denier. AllyCat Mar 2022 #28

When you said plan E made me think. Lots of people may be correct Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2022 #47

I think it's true that we don't completely know what Putin's intentions and plans are, but Jetheels Mar 2022 #11

Ukraine will never stand for being landlocked... brush Mar 2022 #12

Well, There's An Easy Solution smb Mar 2022 #24

That's what I'm talking about. Ukraine out dates Russia. brush Mar 2022 #26

Kiev outdates Moscow IronLionZion Mar 2022 #40

Too clever by two and a half! FreepFryer Mar 2022 #13

! NJCher Mar 2022 #22

As for Ukraine becoming a "welfare case..... SergeStorms Mar 2022 #14

Not to mention there is a lot of talk of turning over the frozen Russian overseas assets to Ukraine Amishman Mar 2022 #21

Yeah, there's going to be.... SergeStorms Mar 2022 #32

well yes, but ... stopdiggin Mar 2022 #44

Depends on what Russia wants, I guess. SergeStorms Mar 2022 #61

very much hope you're right. -(nt)- stopdiggin Mar 2022 #63

That would be the frosting on the cake. I still believe he wants the whole cake. Joinfortmill Mar 2022 #15

The loss of hundreds of armored vehicles. Woodwizard Mar 2022 #17

Putin handed military analysts around the world intell gold. sarge43 Mar 2022 #29

Sounds to me like something Trump would say, gab13by13 Mar 2022 #18

"Putin Is A Genius" - by a NYT genius who denies global warming dalton99a Mar 2022 #23

I'm old enough to remember the NYT opinions section being genuinely liberal. Paladin Mar 2022 #25

A lot of right wing rags get linked here. gab13by13 Mar 2022 #27

It's Brett "Brettbug" Stephens. JHB Mar 2022 #30

Wrong. Russia could end up relinquishing Crimea before this is over. yardwork Mar 2022 #31

I've also considered this... Trueblue Texan Mar 2022 #33

Some good points Johnny2X2X Mar 2022 #35

No. the_sly_pig Mar 2022 #39

It's looking like a gross miscalculation dlk Mar 2022 #42

Putin told us he wants all of Ukraine. He said it straight out Arazi Mar 2022 #45

War is always about the resources Puppyjive Mar 2022 #51

Don't buy it. Happy Hoosier Mar 2022 #52

It's a credible argument; BUT a savvy leader doesn't launch a full-scale military Texin Mar 2022 #53

Nope, that actually doesn't make any sense William Seger Mar 2022 #54

Price of men and material lost results in a negative cost/benefit Torchlight Mar 2022 #58

Of course it's all about the theft. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #59

Are his ultimate gains Mad_Machine76 Mar 2022 #60

I put this up, not because I agreed or disagreed, but because Tomconroy Mar 2022 #62

K&R, I've been saying this on OSINT for nearly 3 weeks uponit7771 Mar 2022 #65

This NATO Advisor pretty much shreds this take in this video Quixote1818 Mar 2022 #67

Right, because what he wants the world to see iemanja Mar 2022 #69