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HariSeldon

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18. I respect Garland and want his investigations and prosecutions to succeed

Thu Mar 31, 2022, 12:47 PM

Mar 2022

But if he takes too much time, there won't be opportunity to use what is uncovered to put the reality in front of the American people in time for them to incorporate this truth in their voting. Political? Yes. But political to save democracy, since the Republicans seem to prefer an end to (little "d&quot democracy.

Our election system was supposed to be based to the American public (historical restrictions on this noted) choosing the best qualified from among the candidates, and was not intended to be "tribal;" there was a point where I would vote for a Republican who stood for good government and careful management of public resources for the benefit of the public at large. But Republicans have, as a party, abandoned those principals and are actively hiding the truth about Jan. 6th, making informed choice -- and therefore the intended functioning of our election system -- impossible.

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WaPo confirms Grand Jury has been convened to subpoena "officials in Trump's orbit" [View all] Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 OP

Does anybody know who got them? Walleye Mar 2022 #1

WaPo says sources declined to name witnesses subpoenaed, but seem my update from NYT Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #5

Sounds like people who rented the buses. gab13by13 Mar 2022 #33

Please tell me the fat lady is warming up for Clarence. gldstwmn Mar 2022 #83

The Fat Lady named , True Blue American Apr 2022 #110

When I first read the headline of this post Jerry2144 Mar 2022 #2

Reminds me of this joke: Ocelot II Mar 2022 #7

Yeah that is a big disappointment Evolve Dammit Mar 2022 #17

I'm often disappointed when I see headlines with the word "Trump" nt IronLionZion Apr 2022 #109

Nah, the word is already out - it's time to move the goalposts AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2022 #3

Not what it means to me, gab13by13 Mar 2022 #8

I don't get it. How were we wrong? Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #32

Because people were correct in the DOJ **NOT** subpoenaing Trumps orbit nearly a year ago uponit7771 Mar 2022 #38

You are not making this any clearer. Let's take a step back, shall we? Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #63

No, I'm not saying that. My complaints of the DOJ are in line with the J6C uponit7771 Mar 2022 #64

Then say what you are saying! Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #74

J6C issues with DOJ are clear and similar to mine uponit7771 Mar 2022 #75

So you can't list your complaints or show how similar they are to the J6C complaints. Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #79

Link inside uponit7771 Mar 2022 #80

Ok, one complaint. Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #90

maybe not Grasswire2 Mar 2022 #97

+1, uponit7771 Mar 2022 #36

You do realize that these reports could come from outside the DOJ? Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #42

Did you forget the sarcasm thingy? we can do it Mar 2022 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author we can do it Mar 2022 #14

this is why it's absurd to go around calling for Garland to resign. bigtree Mar 2022 #4

Yup- someone on another thread just posted they"know for a fact" Garland has declined to prosecute Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #6

It may have been me. gab13by13 Mar 2022 #10

Not only that. Steve Canuck Mar 2022 #24

Sure they can- only a handful have refused to testify, hundreds have complied Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #43

You mean the entire inner circle of the Trump admin have refused Steve Canuck Mar 2022 #86

Just because Trump's inner circle (and only a small portion at that) refused to comply... Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #92

Many of the inner circle that has not been subpoenaed would likely ignore it. Steve Canuck Apr 2022 #104

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2022 #105

I respect Garland and want his investigations and prosecutions to succeed HariSeldon Mar 2022 #18

the Watergate timeline bigtree Mar 2022 #60

But consider also the context HariSeldon Mar 2022 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2022 #106

This is key. notinkansas Apr 2022 #111

...K&R... spanone Mar 2022 #9

Kick and rec for Trump's secret pals. Kingofalldems Mar 2022 #11

So this grand jury has been working for 2 months. MineralMan Mar 2022 #12

you are entitled llashram Mar 2022 #22

A grand jury has been convened for 2 months, gab13by13 Mar 2022 #27

As far as you know... MineralMan Mar 2022 #29

This Hekate Mar 2022 #34

Yup. MineralMan Mar 2022 #35

The fact that it started two months ago is fvckin scary in and of itself. Now are people going to uponit7771 Mar 2022 #39

When was Nixon prosecuted? I don't remember. MineralMan Mar 2022 #41

Never and it still didn't take DOJ more than a year to whip up special prosecutor uponit7771 Mar 2022 #46

So, the special prosecutor didn't get Nixon prosecuted. MineralMan Mar 2022 #49

Nixon got pardoned didn't he? The SP DID take down a lot of his clown car and if Nixon ... uponit7771 Mar 2022 #51

Yes, he got a blanket pardon, even though he had never been charged MineralMan Mar 2022 #72

Hunter Biden Federal Investigation Heats Up uponit7771 Mar 2022 #73

"Why should it be a special prosecutor instead of what is now in place? Didn't work for Nixon." MerryHolidays Mar 2022 #98

For those who invoke Nixon hamsterjill Mar 2022 #55

+1, I think people are taking as much copium as they can when it comes to the DOJ. We see ... uponit7771 Mar 2022 #58

Agreed hamsterjill Mar 2022 #61

+1, looking at EVERY poll Biden's numbers are down among dems and independents and couldn't uponit7771 Mar 2022 #62

There are a lot of us on DU who feel this way hamsterjill Mar 2022 #65

Some people are upset. fightforfreedom Mar 2022 #45

Yes, exactly. MineralMan Mar 2022 #50

You mean like the J6 committee?! They're not happy with DOJ either uponit7771 Mar 2022 #52

As distractions go, this is a good one. Sneederbunk Mar 2022 #15

Who is it distracting, and what are they distracted from? Torchlight Mar 2022 #23

trump and his 'advisor'-daughter llashram Mar 2022 #16

That deposition is not a DOJ thing. MineralMan Mar 2022 #19

yeah you are correct llashram Mar 2022 #20

The Trumps have appealed the order. MineralMan Mar 2022 #21

Will this satisfy the DU naysayers that the DOJ has been going after the proverbial "big fish" for Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #25

Can't answer that unless you give us some names. gab13by13 Mar 2022 #28

The report says people in the "VIP group" at the rally have been subpoenaed Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #44

I doubt it. They're heavily invested in the DOJ is not doing anything idea. MineralMan Mar 2022 #30

No and it shouldn't, people are thinking they DOJ started GJ last year & to find it they started uponit7771 Mar 2022 #53

Who are the "people" you are speaking of? Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #69

Members of the J6C? tia uponit7771 Mar 2022 #70

Members of the J6 Committee are thinking that the DOJ started the Grand Jury last year? Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #76

J6C complaints of DOJ in link uponit7771 Mar 2022 #78

That's an awfully long article with precious few "complaints" Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #88

Do you realize the "complaints" from the J6C are from the day *before* these GJ reports? Nt Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #100

It doesn't satisfy me. hamsterjill Mar 2022 #66

So the goal post has moved again. Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #71

The only big fish that I care about is Trump. hamsterjill Mar 2022 #77

That'll make em skeeered Traildogbob Mar 2022 #26

You can't ignore a grand jury subpoena without immediate consequences Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #47

True, they'll just bullshit their way with suites and appeals hearing of why Trumps toenails ... uponit7771 Mar 2022 #54

That's great to know Traildogbob Mar 2022 #57

But if we have a slew of them defying subpoenas and not showing up calimary Mar 2022 #31

For the bajillionth time Grand Jury subpoenas are different than congressional ones Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #48

some progress ... BlueWavePsych Mar 2022 #37

I hope you're right that you can't ignore a grand jury subpoena without swift consequences wryter2000 Mar 2022 #40

They wont "ignore" it just sue for stupid shit that wont get readily nixed by a judge like they uponit7771 Mar 2022 #59

GJ jury subpoenas are much harder to successfully challenge, especially for testimony Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #84

thx uponit7771 Apr 2022 #103

'Recreational complainers... have been wrong' ?!?! Well then, I'm proud to be tossed into the TeamProg Mar 2022 #56

+1, uponit7771 Mar 2022 #67

Schiff and Kirchner's mild expressions of concern can't compare to the DU'ers wanting AG's head Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #82

Mild? Hardly! They seemed quite pissed off about the lack of progress. Esp. Kirschner and HE'S A TeamProg Mar 2022 #85

I've watched numerous Kirchner videos Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #94

Here's Kirchner's take today on these reports: Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #99

Things seem to continue to go in the right direction. SmallFry Mar 2022 #81

"DOJ slow to resolve Trump-era legal battles " TeamProg Mar 2022 #87

The Hill? Seriously? Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #95

Jan. 6 Committee Sends Message to AG Merrick Garland: 'Do Your Job'" TeamProg Mar 2022 #89

Any more RW "Dems in Disarray" stories you'd like to share? Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #96

"Complaints" are From the day *before* the Grand Jury's existence was revealed. Nt Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #101

Sounds like Dolt 45 fits the description -- DeeDeeNY Mar 2022 #91

Ari Melber had on Caroline Wren who with a straight face said: SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2022 #93

This might have been worthy of rec until I reached bashing of DU editorializing segment msfiddlestix Mar 2022 #102

Clever turn of phrase that I can't say I disagree with... littlemissmartypants Apr 2022 #107

You can't declare that naysayers are wrong until the cuffs are on tfg ecstatic Apr 2022 #108

The naysayers have claimed, with certainty, that DOJ is doing "nothing" re: the coup Fiendish Thingy Apr 2022 #114

What's going to happen if Ginni Thomas is indicted? kimbutgar Apr 2022 #112

Nationwide celebrations? Fiendish Thingy Apr 2022 #113