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WarGamer

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60. Just an honest question... 2 questions actually.

Tue Apr 5, 2022, 10:29 PM

Apr 2022

1) Were you this adamant in asking for US military action while thousands were slaughtered in Syria, Yemen, Ethiopia or the Congo?

2) If not... why?

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Is there any point at which the US or Nato should intervene in Ukraine? [View all] iemanja Apr 2022 OP

Yes, we're there now. When we had proof of dead in the streets as they left Kyiv. Akoto Apr 2022 #1

We are intervening. We are providing weapons and we should provide bigger ones. lagomorph777 Apr 2022 #2

Agreed. So far we have given the Ukrainians defensive weapons. Ray Bruns Apr 2022 #4

Artillery, jets, cruise missiles, and antimissile systems. lagomorph777 Apr 2022 #12

More cruise missiles? AntiFascist Apr 2022 #15

About 2-3 weeks ago was a good time to intervene. BigmanPigman Apr 2022 #3

still under discussion 🤔 sprinkleeninow Apr 2022 #8

After todays liefest in the Security Council C_U_L8R Apr 2022 #5

Some members of Congress/Senate might want to join him. lagomorph777 Apr 2022 #14

Gotta gaetz one of those. C_U_L8R Apr 2022 #26

Put it in your Josh Hauler. lagomorph777 Apr 2022 #28

I think for me the line has already been crossed. Crunchy Frog Apr 2022 #6

Yes, I've arrived to that point. iemanja Apr 2022 #7

It wouldn't even need to be boots on the ground. Crunchy Frog Apr 2022 #19

I agree never say what you are not going to do. nt doc03 Apr 2022 #31

In retrospect, I agree with that iemanja Apr 2022 #41

I've gotten to this point. sprinkleeninow Apr 2022 #23

There is. taxi Apr 2022 #9

doesnt matter qazplm135 Apr 2022 #10

He can do the same in Poland iemanja Apr 2022 #13

He'll probably wait to attack Poland until after he's reinstalled Trump. Crunchy Frog Apr 2022 #20

Poland has already wanted to launch a peacekeeping mission into Ukraine... AntiFascist Apr 2022 #22

A peacekeeping mission? Mariana Apr 2022 #53

It would assist with humanitarian efforts... AntiFascist Apr 2022 #82

The rhetoric suggests they don't plan to stop with Ukraine but results will prove otherwise. Ace Rothstein Apr 2022 #44

+100. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #100

They need to start receiving and training on The Unmitigated Gall Apr 2022 #11

I don't know whether they have time/resources to learn new NATO stuff, lagomorph777 Apr 2022 #17

I wish we would have had the foresight to begin training them last year. Crunchy Frog Apr 2022 #24

Me too. The Unmitigated Gall Apr 2022 #27

Tanks are the new horse and buggy... death traps. WarGamer Apr 2022 #45

Increase the risk of WW3? No. Doodley Apr 2022 #16

There's a reflexive assumption that Putin will send nukes if we... lagomorph777 Apr 2022 #21

You seem to assume he is rational. When we have nukes in the hands of leaders who could Doodley Apr 2022 #78

then risk a repeat of WW2, when too many felt that diplomacy was the solution n/t AntiFascist Apr 2022 #25

I'm not seeing much diplomacy. Talking about regime change isn't the way to reach a diplomatic Doodley Apr 2022 #79

So basically there's no line he can't cross in Ukraine Calculating Apr 2022 #46

There's such a double standard of all the past atrocities, genocides, and mass starvation, where Doodley Apr 2022 #80

So that means we should turn our back on this genocide too? iemanja Apr 2022 #86

We aren't doing nothing. You seem to dismiss all that the Biden administration has done. Doodley Apr 2022 #87

I'm not dismissing it iemanja Apr 2022 #89

Where did I say we should do nothing? Doodley Apr 2022 #94

Where did I say we should do nothing? Doodley Apr 2022 #95

You said we'd done nothing in the past iemanja Apr 2022 #103

No. Doodley Apr 2022 #106

This is way above tbe Cuban missile crisis that seem to... TreasonousBastard Apr 2022 #18

Thank you for the most important point on this thread. We are dealing with a maniac who can Doodley Apr 2022 #81

Hard to believe people are still having this conversation. BannonsLiver Apr 2022 #29

How do you mean? iemanja Apr 2022 #34

Because it's been asked and answered ad nauseam. BannonsLiver Apr 2022 #97

Circumstances have changed iemanja Apr 2022 #104

Those MIGs should have been sent in weeks ago. They are doc03 Apr 2022 #30

So you send the Ukrainians ASM's and let's say they take down the Black Sea fleet... WarGamer Apr 2022 #43

We are dealing with actual monsters here Calculating Apr 2022 #47

What are we to do let Putin take over the world one bite at time a time. We have showed him over and doc03 Apr 2022 #51

NO! snort Apr 2022 #32

No, if Ukraine falls Putin will then attack one of the Baltic countries. marie999 Apr 2022 #35

That is not a foregone conclusion. maxsolomon Apr 2022 #36

He crossed that Red Line before nt doc03 Apr 2022 #54

Location and date, please. maxsolomon Apr 2022 #57

Syria, it is not a NATO country but the Red Line was drawn. Then TFG doc03 Apr 2022 #58

Syria is not a NATO country. maxsolomon Apr 2022 #61

But the Red Line was drawn at chemical weapons. The US got involved to combat ISIS doc03 Apr 2022 #84

Disagree WarGamer Apr 2022 #38

So today is Tuesday 48656c6c6f20 Apr 2022 #39

There is no guarantee of that Mr. Chamberlain ripcord Apr 2022 #92

The US needs to deploy its most relevant weapon Wicked Blue Apr 2022 #33

We're already doing a lot. WarGamer Apr 2022 #37

Agree madville Apr 2022 #40

+1000 so true... WarGamer Apr 2022 #42

War is happening iemanja Apr 2022 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #88

No, my point is there is no anti-war position iemanja Apr 2022 #90

I can see your point, but I disagree with it, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #91

I hope you're right about the offensive weapons systems iemanja Apr 2022 #93

I hope so too, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #96

They need better tools then Calculating Apr 2022 #48

Agreed. I make nightmares... Justice matters. Apr 2022 #49

Why is one American life iemanja Apr 2022 #52

Just an honest question... 2 questions actually. WarGamer Apr 2022 #60

Because I wasn't informed to the same extent about those events iemanja Apr 2022 #62

It's quite a long answer and I'm cooking right now. WarGamer Apr 2022 #65

The reason Ukraine and not Yemen iemanja Apr 2022 #68

I 100% empathize with you. WarGamer Apr 2022 #71

Russia sent armies into Syria iemanja Apr 2022 #72

I was 100% wrong about Ukraine. WarGamer Apr 2022 #73

Big difference to me between a civil war and a invasion. EX500rider Apr 2022 #105

You could ask why is nuclear war worth every life in Ukraine? Pointless questions. Doodley Apr 2022 #76

So we never step in to stop Russia? iemanja Apr 2022 #85

We could have done that in WWII I guess nt doc03 Apr 2022 #55

That's not a great comparison. Mariana Apr 2022 #63

Putin's territorial ambitions are much like Hitler's iemanja Apr 2022 #64

The Brits haven't gone to war with Russia over Ukraine. Mariana Apr 2022 #67

Wait long enough iemanja Apr 2022 #69

Maybe so. Mariana Apr 2022 #74

No, it isn't a "perfect comparison." Doodley Apr 2022 #77

I am surprised at how many posts above are willing to condone any Russian atrocity TomSlick Apr 2022 #50

We are taking action. To potentially trigger Putin into escalating this to WMD is not Doodley Apr 2022 #75

We will fight the Russians to the last Ukrainian. TomSlick Apr 2022 #98

If the West condoned such atroticitites, they wouldn't be providing billions in aid Kaleva Apr 2022 #83

Spousal abuse rarely occurs in plain sight justifying a citizen's arrest. TomSlick Apr 2022 #99

Ok. Would you say you condone TFGs crimes.... Kaleva Apr 2022 #107

I did not have the physical possibility to attempt a citizen's arrest. TomSlick Apr 2022 #108

Biden has been correct to hold a strong line against military engagement David__77 Apr 2022 #56

Personally I think all the western countries.. EX500rider Apr 2022 #59

That's not a bad idea. iemanja Apr 2022 #66

That is an idea I could easily get behind. nt MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #101

Russia has mined Chuuku Davis Apr 2022 #102