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Septua

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17. The argument against a criminal referral
Tue Apr 12, 2022, 08:34 AM
Apr 2022

Katyal: "My fundamental message to Congress is: I know a referral is not necessary, but it's part of your job. Do your job! [emphasis added] Trump is going to say it's political no matter what, whether Congress refers or not"

It's really not Congress' job.

“Our job is … to look at the facts and circumstances around what occurred.

“A formal criminal referral from Congress in this situation could backfire. The Justice Department’s charging decisions should not be influenced by political pressure, and that’s how this might look,” said Ronald Weich, a University of Baltimore law professor and former assistant attorney general in the Obama Justice Department. “A referral could make it harder for the Department to prosecute.”

Congress has no power to initiate a prosecution; that decision rests entirely with the Justice Department. There’s no formal process for making such a referral; the select committee could choose to vote on one and directly send it to DOJ without a vote in the full House. But referrals have long appeared to have little bearing on DOJ’s charging decisions — the department rarely takes them up and other times has charged witnesses for lying to Congress despite no referral from the legislative body.

“It would have no legal effect, just political ones,” echoed Randall Eliason, a George Washington University criminal law professor. “And Congress wouldn’t be telling the DOJ anything it doesn’t already know, or that it couldn’t tell the DOJ without a referral. So I still feel like the costs outweigh any benefits.”

Garland emphasized Friday that he’s already aware of Carter’s ruling on Trump, telling reporters at a press conference that he had seen news coverage of the decision. He said that external factors would not influence DOJ’s prosecution decisions in relation to the Jan. 6 probe.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/04/04/jan-6-panel-trump-criminal-referral-00022470


Yes, Trump and troops will say it's political, partisan, a witch-hunt. But they've been saying all that from day 1 of the Committee creation. But without a criminal referral, the claims are political; Congress is just doing its job. With a referral, Congress oversteps its authority and the claims become fact.

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bipartisan? the committee contains no trump loyalists rampartc Apr 2022 #1
It is bipartisan, gab13by13 Apr 2022 #2
WTF? They aren't a party. They're a horde of KPN Apr 2022 #6
+10000 kacekwl Apr 2022 #12
they are interested in the innocence of their cult leader. rampartc Apr 2022 #18
No referral means Trump will claim, ad nauseum, that he did nothing wrong Mr. Ected Apr 2022 #3
They should send a criminal referral for contempt of Congress... kentuck Apr 2022 #4
He's absolutely right Novara Apr 2022 #5
I am sure the Committee is having similar discussions. kentuck Apr 2022 #7
It only takes one republican and the jury is hung. The Jungle 1 Apr 2022 #8
That is the gamble you take in a democracy... kentuck Apr 2022 #9
Oh I understand how this works and I support it. The Jungle 1 Apr 2022 #10
Simply getting him before a jury would be a victory. kentuck Apr 2022 #14
Trump is going to say he's been acquitted by the Congressional Committee and he's been cleared Emile Apr 2022 #11
If I were on the committee... OneGrassRoot Apr 2022 #13
Agree. Past due for a criminal referral. Conduct hearings while waiting, but get it to DOJ. Evolve Dammit Apr 2022 #15
If there is evidence of a crime and it's not referred it's akin to helping the crimimal Ohioboy Apr 2022 #16
No argument with that. Septua Apr 2022 #20
The argument against a criminal referral Septua Apr 2022 #17
Rep. Luria: Jan. 6 Committee Has 'Responsibility' To Refer Crimes To DOJ BigBearJohn Apr 2022 #19
RIOTS if no referral, pretty damn obvious? Brainfodder Apr 2022 #21
If they have found the crime, and they announced they have, Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #22
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