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Kaleva

(40,288 posts)
48. I'm just telling you scientific facts
Thu Apr 14, 2022, 11:40 PM
Apr 2022

It's human nature for a person who is facing a situation or issue of great importance to take vigorous action in dealing with the situation.


Not everyone who loses a loved one to a drunk driver joins MADD and dedicats a good portion of their lives helping to enact tougher drunk driving laws. The loss of a loved one may be hurtful but that doesn't mean the person who suffered the loss has strong feelings about the issue of drunk driving itself. The actions or non-actions taken by the person in response tell the story.

My wife and I lost our home to a fire some years ago. In our current home I installed smoke detectors on every floor that are tied in together so that if one goes off, they all go off. There's a carbon monoxide detector in the living room and in each bedroom. There's a fire extinguisher in the basement, the kitchen and in the upstairs hallway. All the bedrooms upstairs have an emergency fire escape ladder. I think you'd agree that because of the house fire, I have some concern about such events and that is supported by the actions I have taken.

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It's So Much Safer With MORE Guns! The More The Better! SoCalDavidS Apr 2022 #1
An armed society is a safe and polite society LastDemocratInSC Apr 2022 #7
Yes, gun owners were responsible - for all of the shootings. Towlie Apr 2022 #31
Gun-humpers have never been safe. Hoyt Apr 2022 #2
If only all those guns Jerry2144 Apr 2022 #3
I don't remember this magical time. maxsolomon Apr 2022 #4
Ripcord is absolutely right Ferryboat Apr 2022 #5
Critical Gun Theory should be taught, kids you don't need a gun tucked in Hoyt Apr 2022 #10
Not unless Jilly_in_VA Apr 2022 #13
Excellent idea. multigraincracker Apr 2022 #15
Exactly. Hoyt Apr 2022 #16
When I was young, gun owners were dipshits then too Johnny2X2X Apr 2022 #6
Murder rate with guns was higher 50 years ago. Elessar Zappa Apr 2022 #8
Link, please. Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #34
1990-2018 yagotme Apr 2022 #63
This is murder rate and has nothing to say about guns, and it is for 30 years. Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #64
How's this? yagotme Apr 2022 #65
That's 20 years. But we do know that ALL violent crime is down since the 90s, Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #66
2d paragraph down. yagotme Apr 2022 #70
And how does that say that gun homicides today are lower than 50 years ago? Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #71
50 years ago equals 1970's yagotme Apr 2022 #73
Rose in 60s, rose in 70s, rose in 80s, fell in 90s, leveled out. That says Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #74
I had a couple of close calls when I was a child. iscooterliberally Apr 2022 #9
When you were young, they didn't hand out "Man Cards" with guns. Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #11
Back when I was young, you could take your gun to school during hunting season Kaleva Apr 2022 #12
There were school shootings, even back then. Elessar Zappa Apr 2022 #17
1764. When a group of Native Americans shot and killed a teacher and several students. Kaleva Apr 2022 #21
Yes. Elessar Zappa Apr 2022 #25
But it was years between such events. Kaleva Apr 2022 #26
If you look up the history, at least since 1960 or so, Elessar Zappa Apr 2022 #28
The vast majority of us gun owners are responsible... VarryOn Apr 2022 #14
Kids today are growing up with assault style rifle in their homes and Hoyt Apr 2022 #18
If you were responsible gun owners, you would be the loudest voices demanding that your hobby Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #23
And if you cared about the issue, you'd be taking extraordinary action yourself. Kaleva Apr 2022 #27
Good lord! Are you still trying to get people to join you in your hunger strike?? Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #32
It is your right to not care much about about this issue. Kaleva Apr 2022 #39
As it is your right to troll people who have lost a loved one due to this issue. Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #41
I'm just telling you scientific facts Kaleva Apr 2022 #47
Isn't it nauseating when you realize how base and sick trolls can be? I always find it so. Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #49
Some feel contempt for and loathe those who talk tough but do nothing. Kaleva Apr 2022 #50
We have had this conversation before. You assert your "scientific fact" that a person Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #52
Quote the posts I made here about gun control. Are they similar to yours? Kaleva Apr 2022 #53
I notice you are encouraging people in another thread to sign up to fight in Ukraine. Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #54
There are folks who are willing to put at risk the lives of others. Kaleva Apr 2022 #55
Shipping out soon, are you? Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #56
For what reason? Kaleva Apr 2022 #61
No, that's not what you were doing. You were telling someone that he should sign up to fight Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #62
You don't care much about gun control but you still discuss it. Kaleva Apr 2022 #67
TLDR. Enjoy your lunch Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #68
Enjoy your lunch too! Kaleva Apr 2022 #69
I'm just telling you scientific facts Kaleva Apr 2022 #48
Guns are quite regulated, depending on one where one is... VarryOn Apr 2022 #30
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. There's blood in the streets. And this doesn't happen Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #33
I wouldn't consider it a hobby for me really... VarryOn Apr 2022 #35
. Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author inthewind21 Apr 2022 #57
Everyone inthewind21 Apr 2022 #58
Well, not "everyone"... yagotme Apr 2022 #72
Joe The Plumber: 'Your Dead Kids Don't Trump My Constitutional Rights' To Have Guns keithbvadu2 Apr 2022 #19
Gun deaths by homicide & suicide are not much different from JanMichael Apr 2022 #20
Link please. Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #24
Question - the OP needs a link too, right? It is pure opinion. JanMichael Apr 2022 #37
So there's no source for your statement? Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #38
Why yes there is. JanMichael Apr 2022 #40
I don't see that chart in any of the 4 pages of the source you link. I DO, however, see Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #42
How odd- the link he posted is from 2022 Thtwudbeme Apr 2022 #43
I edited my post. The chart he is showing doesn't seem to show up in the link he gave. Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #44
The data on 1900 was not easy to find JanMichael Apr 2022 #45
Those are homicide rates. They don't say anything about firearms. Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #46
I missed that magical time. SmallFry Apr 2022 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author inthewind21 Apr 2022 #59
It's the norm inthewind21 Apr 2022 #60
I can even remember when the NRA was all about gun safety Buns_of_Fire Apr 2022 #29
Same here. Where I grew up in the rural inland Northwest, Roisin Ni Fiachra Apr 2022 #51
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