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MineralMan

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14. The Red Line US the Border of Any NATO Country.

Fri Apr 15, 2022, 12:06 PM

Apr 2022

It might also be the use of any nuclear arms by Russia.

Until then, we are supplying Ukraine with the weapons it needs to defend itself, which it is doing quite well, actually, while exposing the incompetence of the Russian military for all to see.

Unfortunately, that defense is costing Ukraine thousands upon thousands of its citizen's lives. NATO is not, however, going to risk a nuclear war over that. Nor should it, in my opinion.

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Where is the red line in Ukraine? [View all] ColinC Apr 2022 OP

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That isn't up to us ColinC Apr 2022 #3

Putin will not use nuclear weapons SoonerPride Apr 2022 #4

He will do what he wants. ColinC Apr 2022 #8

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I assume those underneath him are SoonerPride Apr 2022 #53

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I would not be suprised, given the corruption in Russia Bettie Apr 2022 #63

I agree with you Buckeyeblue Apr 2022 #67

he hasn't invaded a NATO country and he only invaded Ukraine after NATO gave him the green light by ColinC Apr 2022 #58

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If he is rational, direct intervention would work ColinC Apr 2022 #86

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So, if Putin uses nuclear weapons in Ukraine Bettie Apr 2022 #31

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OK, noted. Bettie Apr 2022 #61

I get that argument, I really do, but are we really going to let him kill 40 million people krawhitham Apr 2022 #41

Apparently, it's a nice phrase Bettie Apr 2022 #51

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Germany more so than any country in NATO holding things up. Lancero Apr 2022 #59

What is the reason for this poll? Emile Apr 2022 #5

To bait and troll DU members who want a measured response maxsolomon Apr 2022 #20

Or could it be to diminish President Biden's exceptional leadership? Not sure, Emile Apr 2022 #21

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Polls make everything better krawhitham Apr 2022 #42

NATO should already have sent troops into Ukraine. marie999 Apr 2022 #6

Why? SoonerPride Apr 2022 #7

So you're good with genocide? krawhitham Apr 2022 #44

You didn't answer my question SoonerPride Apr 2022 #46

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So do you think President Biden is not doing enough? Emile Apr 2022 #9

I am saying NATO is not doing enough. Not one country. marie999 Apr 2022 #10

You do know we are a big part of NATO? Emile Apr 2022 #11

That's right, we are part of NATO. marie999 Apr 2022 #13

Do you think if President Biden wanted to send troops into Ukraine NATO would Emile Apr 2022 #16

Absolutely not. marie999 Apr 2022 #17

You forget the NATO support after 9/11? Emile Apr 2022 #19

We didn't want to attack Russia. marie999 Apr 2022 #27

No, but NATO fully supported our President into a war Emile Apr 2022 #34

Again, because they would not be fighting Russian troops. marie999 Apr 2022 #35

They followed an American President into an unnecessary war. If President Biden Emile Apr 2022 #40

Except NATO wasn't involved in the Iraq War. It was a ad-hoc coalition, under the UN. Lancero Apr 2022 #43

NATO has a whole were divided, but a sizable sum of the countries in NATO Emile Apr 2022 #78

That's your opinion, not shared by many others here. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #12

Good thing you're not in charge Polybius Apr 2022 #24

Putin isn't using nukes over Ukraine Calculating Apr 2022 #33

Exactly Polybius Apr 2022 #38

The Red Line US the Border of Any NATO Country. MineralMan Apr 2022 #14

Are you saying we will risk a nuclear war if Russia attacks Estonia? marie999 Apr 2022 #15

Yes. Which is why Russia will not attack Estonia. MineralMan Apr 2022 #18

If Russia wins in Ukraine of course it will attack Estonia. marie999 Apr 2022 #22

So you're saying that Biden is a coward and will do nothing if a NATO nation is attacked. Kaleva Apr 2022 #25

Why do you keep bringing up President Biden? marie999 Apr 2022 #32

Biden is essentially the leader of NATO Kaleva Apr 2022 #47

All NATO decisions are consensus decisions. marie999 Apr 2022 #50

Nothing gets done unless Biden approves it. Kaleva Apr 2022 #66

Read up on consensus decisions. marie999 Apr 2022 #68

The only way consensus can be achieved is if Biden approves of the action proposed. Kaleva Apr 2022 #71

President Biden cannot tell NATO what to do. marie999 Apr 2022 #74

NATO stood and watched for good reasons Polybius Apr 2022 #26

See my post #22. marie999 Apr 2022 #30

I did, and it's wrong Polybius Apr 2022 #37

Wonder if they realized that you did, in fact, reply to post #22? Lancero Apr 2022 #39

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NATO refused letting Ukraine into NATO because they knew Russia this was coming, don't forget that krawhitham Apr 2022 #45

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I wrote that if Putin still had a military, he would invade Estonia. marie999 Apr 2022 #72

Why to people always forget the "Never/None" option when creating polls? Polybius Apr 2022 #23

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The red line in Ukraine sarisataka Apr 2022 #28

I think Biden and the other leaders of NATO nations will decide what the Red Line is. Kaleva Apr 2022 #29

Where is yours? brooklynite Apr 2022 #48

Been there, done that. ColinC Apr 2022 #49

Watched a vid about a 73 y/o Vietnam vet over in the UKR undergoing training. Kaleva Apr 2022 #64

Very good! That is inspiring. ColinC Apr 2022 #81

If I was single and not disabled, I'd consider going myself. Kaleva Apr 2022 #87

You can go fight in Ukraine right now. They accept foreign fighters JI7 Apr 2022 #73

Illegal ColinC Apr 2022 #75

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Curiosity ColinC Apr 2022 #77

What does that mean? Emile Apr 2022 #79

... ColinC Apr 2022 #80

What is your limits? Do you think President Biden is not doing enough? Emile Apr 2022 #82

I think no president has done what I would do. (Probably good I'm not president) ColinC Apr 2022 #83

Thanks for your honest reply! I fully support President Biden leadership during Emile Apr 2022 #84

Welcome! ColinC Apr 2022 #85