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krawhitham

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45. NATO refused letting Ukraine into NATO because they knew Russia this was coming, don't forget that

Reply to Polybius (Reply #26)

Fri Apr 15, 2022, 01:30 PM

Apr 2022

Plus one of the main reason for the refusal was NATO claiming the Ukrainian armed forces were not strong enough

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Where is the red line in Ukraine? [View all] ColinC Apr 2022 OP

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That isn't up to us ColinC Apr 2022 #3

Putin will not use nuclear weapons SoonerPride Apr 2022 #4

He will do what he wants. ColinC Apr 2022 #8

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I assume those underneath him are SoonerPride Apr 2022 #53

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I would not be suprised, given the corruption in Russia Bettie Apr 2022 #63

I agree with you Buckeyeblue Apr 2022 #67

he hasn't invaded a NATO country and he only invaded Ukraine after NATO gave him the green light by ColinC Apr 2022 #58

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If he is rational, direct intervention would work ColinC Apr 2022 #86

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So, if Putin uses nuclear weapons in Ukraine Bettie Apr 2022 #31

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OK, noted. Bettie Apr 2022 #61

I get that argument, I really do, but are we really going to let him kill 40 million people krawhitham Apr 2022 #41

Apparently, it's a nice phrase Bettie Apr 2022 #51

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Germany more so than any country in NATO holding things up. Lancero Apr 2022 #59

What is the reason for this poll? Emile Apr 2022 #5

To bait and troll DU members who want a measured response maxsolomon Apr 2022 #20

Or could it be to diminish President Biden's exceptional leadership? Not sure, Emile Apr 2022 #21

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Polls make everything better krawhitham Apr 2022 #42

NATO should already have sent troops into Ukraine. marie999 Apr 2022 #6

Why? SoonerPride Apr 2022 #7

So you're good with genocide? krawhitham Apr 2022 #44

You didn't answer my question SoonerPride Apr 2022 #46

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So do you think President Biden is not doing enough? Emile Apr 2022 #9

I am saying NATO is not doing enough. Not one country. marie999 Apr 2022 #10

You do know we are a big part of NATO? Emile Apr 2022 #11

That's right, we are part of NATO. marie999 Apr 2022 #13

Do you think if President Biden wanted to send troops into Ukraine NATO would Emile Apr 2022 #16

Absolutely not. marie999 Apr 2022 #17

You forget the NATO support after 9/11? Emile Apr 2022 #19

We didn't want to attack Russia. marie999 Apr 2022 #27

No, but NATO fully supported our President into a war Emile Apr 2022 #34

Again, because they would not be fighting Russian troops. marie999 Apr 2022 #35

They followed an American President into an unnecessary war. If President Biden Emile Apr 2022 #40

Except NATO wasn't involved in the Iraq War. It was a ad-hoc coalition, under the UN. Lancero Apr 2022 #43

NATO has a whole were divided, but a sizable sum of the countries in NATO Emile Apr 2022 #78

That's your opinion, not shared by many others here. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #12

Good thing you're not in charge Polybius Apr 2022 #24

Putin isn't using nukes over Ukraine Calculating Apr 2022 #33

Exactly Polybius Apr 2022 #38

The Red Line US the Border of Any NATO Country. MineralMan Apr 2022 #14

Are you saying we will risk a nuclear war if Russia attacks Estonia? marie999 Apr 2022 #15

Yes. Which is why Russia will not attack Estonia. MineralMan Apr 2022 #18

If Russia wins in Ukraine of course it will attack Estonia. marie999 Apr 2022 #22

So you're saying that Biden is a coward and will do nothing if a NATO nation is attacked. Kaleva Apr 2022 #25

Why do you keep bringing up President Biden? marie999 Apr 2022 #32

Biden is essentially the leader of NATO Kaleva Apr 2022 #47

All NATO decisions are consensus decisions. marie999 Apr 2022 #50

Nothing gets done unless Biden approves it. Kaleva Apr 2022 #66

Read up on consensus decisions. marie999 Apr 2022 #68

The only way consensus can be achieved is if Biden approves of the action proposed. Kaleva Apr 2022 #71

President Biden cannot tell NATO what to do. marie999 Apr 2022 #74

NATO stood and watched for good reasons Polybius Apr 2022 #26

See my post #22. marie999 Apr 2022 #30

I did, and it's wrong Polybius Apr 2022 #37

Wonder if they realized that you did, in fact, reply to post #22? Lancero Apr 2022 #39

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NATO refused letting Ukraine into NATO because they knew Russia this was coming, don't forget that krawhitham Apr 2022 #45

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I wrote that if Putin still had a military, he would invade Estonia. marie999 Apr 2022 #72

Why to people always forget the "Never/None" option when creating polls? Polybius Apr 2022 #23

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The red line in Ukraine sarisataka Apr 2022 #28

I think Biden and the other leaders of NATO nations will decide what the Red Line is. Kaleva Apr 2022 #29

Where is yours? brooklynite Apr 2022 #48

Been there, done that. ColinC Apr 2022 #49

Watched a vid about a 73 y/o Vietnam vet over in the UKR undergoing training. Kaleva Apr 2022 #64

Very good! That is inspiring. ColinC Apr 2022 #81

If I was single and not disabled, I'd consider going myself. Kaleva Apr 2022 #87

You can go fight in Ukraine right now. They accept foreign fighters JI7 Apr 2022 #73

Illegal ColinC Apr 2022 #75

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Curiosity ColinC Apr 2022 #77

What does that mean? Emile Apr 2022 #79

... ColinC Apr 2022 #80

What is your limits? Do you think President Biden is not doing enough? Emile Apr 2022 #82

I think no president has done what I would do. (Probably good I'm not president) ColinC Apr 2022 #83

Thanks for your honest reply! I fully support President Biden leadership during Emile Apr 2022 #84

Welcome! ColinC Apr 2022 #85