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45. If it makes math interesting for someone, then what's the harm? nt

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It turns out the example of a math worksheet mixed with Maya Angelou questions is real. [View all] pnwmom Apr 2022 OP

Which textbook in Florida that was removed had those questions? ( n/t ) Make7 Apr 2022 #1

Probably none, since it's been withdrawn everywhere. pnwmom Apr 2022 #5

Makes me wonder why the Press Secretary for the Governor of Florida put that on Twitter. Make7 Apr 2022 #12

It wasn't in a textbook, but it was included in worksheets that at least one FL teacher used. pnwmom Apr 2022 #13

So they are banning textbooks in 2022 over something not in a textbook from 2015? Make7 Apr 2022 #15

They were using it for P.R., obviously. But it was from a real worksheet pnwmom Apr 2022 #17

None. SergeStorms Apr 2022 #7

Right. There was a controversy in Missouri, but the example was from an online worksheet, pnwmom Apr 2022 #14

None, it's a doctored document taken from a free, on-line Phoenix61 Apr 2022 #35

The math puzzle writer has confirmed that the original worksheet contained those questions. pnwmom Apr 2022 #68

Thanks for posting. nt Phoenix61 Apr 2022 #75

I think that has been doctored Nictuku Apr 2022 #2

The original may have been doctored. But the original version--and that whole way of teaching math-- pnwmom Apr 2022 #8

It's a skills practice. Phoenix61 Apr 2022 #30

Life isn't cut up into separate little pieces, but there is nothing real life pnwmom Apr 2022 #39

If it makes math interesting for someone, then what's the harm? nt Gore1FL Apr 2022 #45

It trivializes the poet's life, and does nothing to enhance learning the math pnwmom Apr 2022 #47

If it helps reach one kid or breaks up the monotony of math for someone it's all good. Gore1FL Apr 2022 #60

If it's a waste of time or even confusing for a bunch of others, then it does do harm. pnwmom Apr 2022 #77

I would need to see the author's confirmation. But that's besides the point. Gore1FL Apr 2022 #84

Here is the Buzzfeed link. pnwmom Apr 2022 #85

It's not in a textbook as claimed originally. Gore1FL Apr 2022 #86

Have you ever taught math to kids? nt Phoenix61 Apr 2022 #55

As a mother of three, yes. I found many ways to incorporate math into my children's lives, pnwmom Apr 2022 #58

Trying to keep a classroom of kids engaged in a math Phoenix61 Apr 2022 #62

I don't believe this particular exercise will help, because there is a false connection pnwmom Apr 2022 #63

It's not about a concrete connection. Remember Phoenix61 Apr 2022 #66

Another problem is reverse engineering exboyfil Apr 2022 #81

That's where "and show your work" part comes into play. nt Phoenix61 Apr 2022 #91

It still makes no sense exboyfil Apr 2022 #40

Right. Personal finance examples, climate change examples, gerrymandering examples -- pnwmom Apr 2022 #50

I like it! NH Ethylene Apr 2022 #104

no, there are multiple 'real' versions, Celerity Apr 2022 #53

It was doctored. The original never appeared in a math book and was supplemental curriculum. Beakybird Apr 2022 #3

I'm not posting the doctored version. n/t pnwmom Apr 2022 #6

No, but DeSatan's staffer did, and you said it was real. lagomorph777 Apr 2022 #10

The nutty and abhorrent version is real, according to the person who wrote the puzzle. pnwmom Apr 2022 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author Mariana Apr 2022 #4

Dumb idea dalton99a Apr 2022 #9

Post #2 in this thread says this is fake dpibel Apr 2022 #25

The worksheet is real. The school district apologized: dalton99a Apr 2022 #27

Clint Clark is a moron exboyfil Apr 2022 #41

This is the link to the real one Phoenix61 Apr 2022 #32

That's not the original one. It's a version with the offensive parts edited out. n/t pnwmom Apr 2022 #78

It's the one that's been available for since 2017 on the Phoenix61 Apr 2022 #90

The author has acknowledged the original version. He must have had second thoughts pnwmom Apr 2022 #99

I have to wonder how many of the parents having a fit over Phoenix61 Apr 2022 #102

This is not real. It's a doctored document DeSatan's staff posted. Phoenix61 Apr 2022 #31

I like to use car driving analogies Turbineguy Apr 2022 #11

This cross pollination of subject material was adopted more than twenty years ago. Baitball Blogger Apr 2022 #16

I think this cross-pollination is a dumb idea, actually. It's an especially terrible way to teach pnwmom Apr 2022 #19

Actually, it was a very structured program. Baitball Blogger Apr 2022 #23

I can think of many instances where two subjects can be merged. Mr.Bill Apr 2022 #38

Exactly. De Santis is just strategically removing minority history. Baitball Blogger Apr 2022 #44

This is just a horrible way to teach math exboyfil Apr 2022 #49

I agree. A bit of an over-reach, even if well-intended. n/t Mr.Bill Apr 2022 #51

I guess it is a teaching approach exboyfil Apr 2022 #59

I should have said THIS particular cross-pollination idea. The format didn't lend itself pnwmom Apr 2022 #106

There is nothing "whole" about teaching a poet's life in a series of multiple choice questions pnwmom Apr 2022 #52

It's not really "teaching" about her so much as using her bio to draw students through fishwax Apr 2022 #26

They were using her painful life story as a "hook." It was trivializing the poet and her life's work pnwmom Apr 2022 #54

So much better not to make anyone uncomfortable and not mention it at all. Baitball Blogger Apr 2022 #61

No, it's so much better to use real life math examples. For example, when my daughter pnwmom Apr 2022 #65

I don't recall that you answered my question. Baitball Blogger Apr 2022 #70

Sorry, I didn't notice it. No, we never homeschooled. nt pnwmom Apr 2022 #76

it doesn't trivialize her -- those particular details weren't a good choice because fishwax Apr 2022 #74

But this doesn't get kids interested in actual uses of math OR teach them about poetry. pnwmom Apr 2022 #82

the point is not to teach them about poetry fishwax Apr 2022 #87

If the high school student who needed more math practice knew more about Angelou pnwmom Apr 2022 #88

I mean, that's not really a big deal either, because it's *one* worksheet fishwax Apr 2022 #92

You're wrong that "nobody is saying that kids shouldn't practice math that way." pnwmom Apr 2022 #93

that's a rather different conversation fishwax Apr 2022 #94

Not really. She's famous for saying she never had to learn her multiplication tables pnwmom Apr 2022 #95

I have no idea what that has to do with the conversation about the worksheet fishwax Apr 2022 #96

I don't think ALL math worksheets with non-math content are bad. pnwmom Apr 2022 #98

It is an interdisciplinary approach. NH Ethylene Apr 2022 #105

I can assure you that in the early 60s, Mr.Bill Apr 2022 #34

I didn't realize that the Metric system was invented by God. lagomorph777 Apr 2022 #36

I think he was trying to infer Mr.Bill Apr 2022 #37

Obviously it would depend on how crazy the teacher was exboyfil Apr 2022 #46

He obviously was trying to imply that. lagomorph777 Apr 2022 #103

This message was self-deleted by its author Tommy Carcetti Apr 2022 #18

The AP article doesn't say so. But either way, it's a dumb way to teach about Maya Angelou pnwmom Apr 2022 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author Tommy Carcetti Apr 2022 #21

AP doesn't say what? dpibel Apr 2022 #22

Angelou held many jobs, including some in the sex trade, working as a prostitute and madam for Celerity Apr 2022 #28

And all these discussions are valid in a Literature, History, or Sociology class exboyfil Apr 2022 #42

I agree, I was just confirming the actual history for that poster. Celerity Apr 2022 #43

Right -- because there's no context. It's just mining her bio for eye-opening details pnwmom Apr 2022 #79

I saw it pointed out that if you familiar with her story exboyfil Apr 2022 #80

Right! In my mind, I was automatically answering the questions about her, pnwmom Apr 2022 #83

It was. This is the link to the real one. Phoenix61 Apr 2022 #33

there are different 'real' versions Celerity Apr 2022 #48

Seems it was changed to the current one 5 years ago. nt Phoenix61 Apr 2022 #57

yes (although we do not now the exact date of change), but some schools had the old version Celerity Apr 2022 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author old as dirt Apr 2022 #24

looks like a dual class Tickle Apr 2022 #29

It's a terrible way to teach about the poet Maya Angelou, reducing her life to pnwmom Apr 2022 #56

I was being sarcastic Tickle Apr 2022 #64

You didn't offend me! But your idea is one lots of people are promoting, pnwmom Apr 2022 #67

This may have already been said, and maybe I missed it... NotTodayPutin Apr 2022 #71

I haven't seen the answer to that anywhere. Instead, they released some online worksheet question pnwmom Apr 2022 #73

How fucking weird, inappropriate, and stupid. Wingus Dingus Apr 2022 #89

The outrage still doesn't make sense since they support Trump and Roy Moore JI7 Apr 2022 #97

Example of random rubbish that can be found on the net JCMach1 Apr 2022 #100

This isn't a justification for Florida. But we shouldn't be responding by claiming pnwmom Apr 2022 #101

Exactly, and I think this had mad the RW FB rounds a number of years ago JCMach1 Apr 2022 #107