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wnylib

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7. Or maybe that was Plan A from the start.

Reply to WarGamer (Reply #4)

Tue Apr 19, 2022, 12:14 AM

Apr 2022

Damage Kyiv, intimidate the Ukranians with murders of civilians, and expect to gain the eastern region and sea ports in negotiations.

But, instead, the Ukrainians fight back, with foreign aid, and refuse to negotiate precisely because of the slaughter of civilians. So now Russia has to fight for the territory it wants.

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Krugman re-tweet on size of Russia's forces in Ukraine [View all] BootinUp Apr 2022 OP

Ol' Donny Rumsfeld used to say... dchill Apr 2022 #1

That as my thought before the war began ThoughtCriminal Apr 2022 #2

When I was in the Army (80s and early 90s) rpannier Apr 2022 #9

+1, the number of forces are just fine to operate as a mechanized terror organization blowing ... uponit7771 Apr 2022 #20

Putin believed the hype about his army. His first mistake. And the mistakes keep coming. brush Apr 2022 #3

as much, he believed the hype qazplm135 Apr 2022 #11

Which explains "Plan B" WarGamer Apr 2022 #4

Or maybe that was Plan A from the start. wnylib Apr 2022 #7

nah qazplm135 Apr 2022 #12

Those were their BEST? wnylib Apr 2022 #13

it's all relative qazplm135 Apr 2022 #15

yes, the VDV were Russian airborne troops and they got decimated quick fast and embarrasingly. uponit7771 Apr 2022 #19

Some of their better armored units too Amishman Apr 2022 #21

Depends on what your objective is. Putin's seems to be leveling whole cities & slaughtering all... Hekate Apr 2022 #5

Trying to intimidate them into begging for peace wnylib Apr 2022 #8

Yes. NT SmallFry Apr 2022 #24

Chechnya, Syria... the parade goes on rpannier Apr 2022 #10

+1, a mechanized terror organization doesn't need to be massed uponit7771 Apr 2022 #18

If you give them the max of 800 per BTG, this is only 60,800 soldiers. PatrickforB Apr 2022 #6

There are 44,000 of Ukraine's best in the Donbas already. speak easy Apr 2022 #14

Well, yeah, evil. I get that. PatrickforB Apr 2022 #22

But somehow Putin will roll through Eastern Europe 867-5309. Apr 2022 #16

TY NT SmallFry Apr 2022 #25

It's not really about that... Wounded Bear Apr 2022 #26

Good reply, thanks n/t 867-5309. Apr 2022 #27

800 (AT MOST) troops to one BTG is around 64000. Russia will lose ..... some more. uponit7771 Apr 2022 #17

Cruise missiles, drones, heavy bombers. maxsolomon Apr 2022 #23