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ReasonableToo

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152. I don't disagree.

Mon Oct 29, 2012, 02:17 PM

Oct 2012

As Shakespeare said, "there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.

"provide for the common defense" sounds like a good idea.

I often have trouble with the idea of the blanket "thank you for your service" because I don't know if this particular soldier is one of the zealots/brainwashed or one of the tortured soles that have opened eyes and are in a catch-22 where they can't disobey orders but know how wrong the orders are. I suspect this is the source of many of the suicides in the last few years.

I can't turn my back on all soldiers and sailors in general but I'm also wary of some coming back and militarizing the police. My biggest problem with the Prez is drones and not reigning in the military - not outing and removing the religious zealots.

So...I'm not being defensive and i certainly understand where you're coming from.

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Amazing Photo: Hurricane does not deter guards at Tomb of the Unknown Soldier [View all] ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 OP

How can they stand like that without moving.. darkangel218 Oct 2012 #1

They don't stand around for long periods. They march back and forth. Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #2

Ahh ok, that makes more sense. darkangel218 Oct 2012 #4

You're right. Once the guard is posted, they "walk the mat". sarge43 Oct 2012 #11

more details grantcart Oct 2012 #14

Deep vein thrombosis is more likely if one sits for long periods, rather than standing. Aristus Oct 2012 #51

old pic...taken last year....nt Evasporque Oct 2012 #128

That's why you sometimes hear of those guards in London fainting. Bucky Oct 2012 #244

Thank you for posting this picture. kstewart33 Oct 2012 #3

Uh, yeah. Get those kids in out of that. That's just stupid. nolabear Oct 2012 #5

I agree completely. obxhead Oct 2012 #40

Yeah. What is the point of standing there? Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #70

People who have never served do not understand the military. speedoo Oct 2012 #148

Yep. You are exactly fucking right. cliffordu Oct 2012 #163

You know, I never served, but I have the good sense to not mock a gravesite. msanthrope Oct 2012 #192

I don't either Aerows Oct 2012 #209

People are not "mocking" a gravesite. Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #262

Yes, they are. And one of them has already been banned. nt msanthrope Oct 2012 #263

who got banned over this quinnox Oct 2012 #267

Kindly Refrain, who got a pizza delivered msanthrope Oct 2012 #278

Now that was long overdue. What a rude person. MADem Oct 2012 #284

It's a common sense issue to me. Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #197

Your common sense is not relevant to discussing how the military honors its fallen. speedoo Oct 2012 #199

They're fucking VOLUNTEERS! Do some research before you make an ass of yourself!!! George II Oct 2012 #279

Wow. Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #280

That is not true. Most duers understand and honor those who served still_one Oct 2012 #214

Your key word is "most". speedoo Oct 2012 #218

I know still_one Oct 2012 #225

I get it. The sacrifice the Unknowns made makes the rain seem like nothing. Bucky Oct 2012 #246

Hey, you don't have to have served to appreciate this. calimary Oct 2012 #253

They volunteer for this duty. It's an honor. JohnnyRingo Oct 2012 #162

It is to honor those who served and died, many who were drafted, but all who served their country still_one Oct 2012 #212

They are safe. And guarding that tomb? It's a sacred honor. Autumn Oct 2012 #215

Respect for those who have died defending not only our country, but the rights we have as Americans. Hepburn Oct 2012 #320

If you don't get, you don't get it. Stinky The Clown Oct 2012 #234

You should be thrown off this board Ter Oct 2012 #346

Well, possibly he should be admonished. sibelian Oct 2012 #350

No, nolabear is expressing a valid concern for the troops guarding the Tomb pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #361

Guards are present at all times. sarge43 Oct 2012 #6

Huge honor. Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #58

I agree. I have a great deal of respect for those young people. nt MADem Oct 2012 #99

The unknown soldier has never once been stolen. cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #7

So, what are they protecting? Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #8

From what I remember, there were Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #15

Respect dipsydoodle Oct 2012 #17

It is a show of respect, honoring the fallen for their sacrifice. The 101st Chairborne msanthrope Oct 2012 #31

I guess it comes down to who gets to decide what qualifies as showing respect. stopbush Oct 2012 #74

I'm becoming increasingly irritated with this. sibelian Oct 2012 #354

Here's what your avatar said about it: Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #93

You think these soldiers are marching joyfully to music? Go read the Einstein-Szilard Letter msanthrope Oct 2012 #103

Something he deeply regretted for the rest of his life. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #108

Then if you served, stop showing such disrespect to the people who msanthrope Oct 2012 #115

I'm not disrescting the dead. I'm disrespecting those who glorify war. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #122

Actually, this thread was an unintentional dog whistle to DemocratsForProgress Oct 2012 #136

Then why the soldiers "guarding" it with guns? Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #164

The 3rd carry fixed bayonets to commemorate Cerro Gordo. I wonder what you would make of msanthrope Oct 2012 #191

It doesn't make war "glorious", but it sure as shit makes it HONORABLE George II Oct 2012 #281

You are disrespecting a gravesite with your uneccessary commentary. A gravesite. msanthrope Oct 2012 #180

But, I didn't. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #202

You did Aerows Oct 2012 #219

No--you are disrespecting the soldiers who are tasked with care of that tomb. msanthrope Oct 2012 #229

Honey, you seem to be the only one here who see "glorification of war" in this thread, whathehell Oct 2012 #270

"the monsters who sent those in the tomb to kill and die..." EX500rider Oct 2012 #275

The 3rd is also Ready Brigade to defend Washington jmowreader Oct 2012 #149

Yep--quite familiar with The Old Guard. The disrespect on this thread is sickening. nt msanthrope Oct 2012 #194

Are you kidding? This is America. Aristus Oct 2012 #56

In a hurricane? Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #90

In all weathers, night and day, around the clock, forever. Aristus Oct 2012 #107

Yeah, I know it doesn't. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #112

I've said a lot of horrible shit to people on this board before, cliffordu Oct 2012 #169

Oh, dear me. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #178

There are no songs, poems or posts on DU cliffordu Oct 2012 #184

boom goes the dynamite dionysus Oct 2012 #377

The honor of these soldiers comes not from patriotism, but from the oaths they fulfilled. msanthrope Oct 2012 #185

Yes, I did swear the same oath. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #204

I think Cliffordu has the measure of you. nt msanthrope Oct 2012 #213

if you were a marine i'm the queen of england. dionysus Oct 2012 #261

You've called another poster a liar DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2012 #356

yes, yes i did. dionysus Oct 2012 #376

Well then, I guess you and George W Bush both get feelins' in your gut DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2012 #383

You are just fine the way you are HangOnKids Oct 2012 #201

Everyone, when I was in, called it The Crotch. Or, The Suck. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #207

In your case, at least, that seems to be appropriate nt pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #364

All of these guards are volunteers and compete for the honor. grantcart Oct 2012 #382

That's one reason. There is another. sarge43 Oct 2012 #216

I would imagine that respect often needs protection. LanternWaste Oct 2012 #153

Yeah, especially from some of the sick fucks on this thread. whathehell Oct 2012 #272

They're protecting you Ter Oct 2012 #347

They are protecting a sacred concept. sibelian Oct 2012 #353

ugh. depressing, sentimental, militaristic nonsense. cali Oct 2012 #9

That's one opinion /nt. demwing Oct 2012 #20

I think it is beautiful.... but if it was my decision I'd send those boys in for some soup. DonRedwood Oct 2012 #25

It's their decision TruthAnalyzed Oct 2012 #171

Isn't it great there were people who gave their lives so you could say something that stupid former-republican Oct 2012 #23

Thank you sarge43 Oct 2012 #28

All the dreams, and hope, and promise gone because of miltaristic nonsense n/t HangOnKids Oct 2012 #35

Yeah, they weren't smart as you. n/t sarge43 Oct 2012 #37

Never Said That Sarge HangOnKids Oct 2012 #41

Nonsense? Jeff In Milwaukee Oct 2012 #165

How do you know the poster doesn't have loved ones in the military? obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #187

Why don't you STFU Jeff HangOnKids Oct 2012 #198

My guess is....Nobody Jeff In Milwaukee Oct 2012 #210

Actually, you're wrong, and you look like a fucking moron DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2012 #362

You're Welcome... Jeff In Milwaukee Oct 2012 #372

I was in the military, but didn't die. Do I still get the right to "bitch and moan"? DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2012 #373

This message was self-deleted by its author Jeff In Milwaukee Oct 2012 #384

Yes obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #177

And millions of other dreams, hope and promise got to live because of it mythology Oct 2012 #228

Care to provide an example other than World War 2? redgreenandblue Oct 2012 #309

American Revolution, Civil War, WWI eaglesfanintn Oct 2012 #321

"miltaristic nonsense" EX500rider Oct 2012 #276

How does killing Vietnamese or Korean or Iraqi or Afghan people Kindly Refrain Oct 2012 #45

There ARE no unknown soldiers from the Iraq or Afghan wars. kestrel91316 Oct 2012 #60

Didn't answer my question Kindly Refrain Oct 2012 #66

because the question is irrelevant in the context of this story. eqfan592 Oct 2012 #76

It kinda did ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #110

sleep well, sweet, sweet prince. dionysus Oct 2012 #378

Right there with you, Kindly Refrain. Aristus Oct 2012 #63

Thank You amuse bouche Oct 2012 #101

How does disrespecting those who have served BainsBane Oct 2012 #157

No one is disrespecting KIAs in this thread obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #189

I can see their point. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #327

The fault lies not in those who serve... PavePusher Oct 2012 #329

Not when people volunteer to serve. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #334

O.K., I'll go back to Yugoslavia and Mozambique and re-collect all those relief supplies. PavePusher Oct 2012 #355

Yup, I noted the kosovo war in another thread. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #367

Those who volunteer have the fewest opportunities in life BainsBane Oct 2012 #345

I can assure you that the reasons for military service PavePusher Oct 2012 #357

Demographics prove my point BainsBane Oct 2012 #363

Yea but we weren't always a global superpower: The Revolution, The Civil War, World War II? Hippo_Tron Oct 2012 #179

They did not create those conflicts, politicians did. It should never be taken out on the soldiers still_one Oct 2012 #217

How about those who fought Hitler's armies?...Or would you rather be livng under the Third Reich? whathehell Oct 2012 #274

LoL. Read up on the history of World War 2. redgreenandblue Oct 2012 #303

LOL...You read up on it. whathehell Oct 2012 #314

i know, this thread is swimming with imbeciles... dionysus Oct 2012 #380

LOL...Thanks for telling it like it is! whathehell Oct 2012 #381

LOL, because a nuclear armed Nazi Germany wouldn't have been a threat. dionysus Oct 2012 #379

+1 000 000 000 kestrel91316 Oct 2012 #55

That's a good example of something that sounds wise cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #65

oh for fuck's sake. Do you really believe that tripe? cali Oct 2012 #89

Those guarding the Tomb are scarcely "Mindlessly kowtowing" MineralMan Oct 2012 #155

And I completely agree, MM. cliffordu Oct 2012 #237

agree Crabby Appleton Oct 2012 #300

Fact is, the US military has done little to "protect the right to free speech" in the US. redgreenandblue Oct 2012 #304

Dude, those aren't my words. You appear to have MineralMan Oct 2012 #351

Yeah. Instead of the D-Day landings on Omaha Beach, Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #195

WWII was nearly 70 years ago. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #328

So honoring the soldiers who landed on D-day is "milking the tit of WWII". Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #374

Nope. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #386

Ive never understood statements like this. bunnies Oct 2012 #231

If you don't have to speak German and give a Nazi salute at Party meetings... PavePusher Oct 2012 #288

Wrong. redgreenandblue Oct 2012 #307

What is the point? CaptJasHook Oct 2012 #323

Hitler had plans to invade the US? bunnies Oct 2012 #370

I have to agree amuse bouche Oct 2012 #81

Obviously you don't understand the military. speedoo Oct 2012 #154

I underrstand plenty amuse bouche Oct 2012 #257

lol! darkangel218 Oct 2012 #258

Is that so? Do we have a servicemember's permission to speak now? DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2012 #365

This is a democracy. You are entitled to your opinion. nt bluestate10 Oct 2012 #92

Written by someone manning a keyboard MineralMan Oct 2012 #116

i expected better from you. rateyes Oct 2012 #150

You lost all my respect with that idiotic, uninformed post. speedoo Oct 2012 #151

Those bad ass The Wizard Oct 2012 #173

I wonder..... cliffordu Oct 2012 #161

But, it sells a lot of people into thinking that killing and dying is glorious and honorable. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #168

i agree with you. But, there are tons of less intelligent people who join up, because all the Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2012 #282

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #289

Best post of the thread. redgreenandblue Oct 2012 #311

Exactly amuse bouche Oct 2012 #324

Bullshit. Respecting and honoring their sacrifice does not mean you endorse all wars still_one Oct 2012 #223

Looks like the hurricane blew your mask off. nt Union Scribe Oct 2012 #305

Next time one of your friends dies and you put flowers on their tomb... sibelian Oct 2012 #358

Amazing. WilliamPitt Oct 2012 #10

I would feel very foolish guarding an empty tomb quinnox Oct 2012 #12

It isn't empty. whistler162 Oct 2012 #16

Why do you think it's empty? Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #21

ok so it isn't empty quinnox Oct 2012 #24

Among other none symbolic reasons sarge43 Oct 2012 #29

Please post a link to that incident. Kindly Refrain Oct 2012 #46

It happened several years ago, mid nineties as memory serves. sarge43 Oct 2012 #53

"Desecration of the Vietnam Memorial Wall" KansDem Oct 2012 #124

Thanks KansDem sarge43 Oct 2012 #176

You don't get it sarisataka Oct 2012 #34

I read the url as Firebirds01 Oct 2012 #47

I didn't notice that until you pointed it out. They probably should change the url name. Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #50

It s not empty nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #111

Tattoos are peculiar? LanternWaste Oct 2012 #160

It's not empty. Those who have fought in wars have a flavor in their mouth Autumn Oct 2012 #226

I saw this when I visited DC and I cried. it was one of the most MOVING things I have onecent Oct 2012 #13

Really?? I'll be moved when our living veterans are being properly considered and taken Lionessa Oct 2012 #27

It's not pageantry. speedoo Oct 2012 #158

Are they actuallyl guarding anything, no. It's pageantry, nothing more. Lionessa Oct 2012 #238

Me too. The former Marine I was with would Ilsa Oct 2012 #211

beautiful pic trailmonkee Oct 2012 #18

Details of the duty for these soldiers. grantcart Oct 2012 #19

. Kurovski Oct 2012 #22

I'm sorry but that kind of determination is just plain stupid and shouldn't be regaled. Lionessa Oct 2012 #26

I'm willing to bet the men in that photo don't feel they are being "just plain stupid". Throd Oct 2012 #30

Yeah because they are brainwashed. Kindly Refrain Oct 2012 #38

My brother applied. ReasonableToo Oct 2012 #73

Military personnel have achieved demi-god status in the US Kindly Refrain Oct 2012 #82

I don't disagree. ReasonableToo Oct 2012 #152

how does one know if they are brainwashed? eom yawnmaster Oct 2012 #285

Please go fuck yourself. n/t PavePusher Oct 2012 #290

And if you asked those soldiers... sarisataka Oct 2012 #39

But if you asked them if taking care of their fellow returning vets was more important than standing Lionessa Oct 2012 #44

As they are volunteers for that duty they'd probably say why can't we do both. n/t sarge43 Oct 2012 #57

Because they are willfully representing a false reality. We treat our vets like shit, not like heros Lionessa Oct 2012 #69

Bugs me quite a bit because I am a veteran sarge43 Oct 2012 #97

You know, my dad was a veteran of WWII Kindly Refrain Oct 2012 #102

Would you please post any of my messages where I indicated I believe I belong to a "special class" sarge43 Oct 2012 #133

Hubby and I try to convey it nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #138

If it were only the kids these days sarge43 Oct 2012 #174

I know nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #206

What I do is ignore this pageantry and vote for folks who'll do a better job of tending reality Lionessa Oct 2012 #239

First, I didn't ask for your thanks and I don't want it. sarge43 Oct 2012 #243

Thanks is given regardless of your willingness to accept it. Lionessa Oct 2012 #341

I agree with you. n/t Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #332

What I do about it. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #331

Hint, huge one indeed nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #134

Even generals were butter bars once upon a time sarge43 Oct 2012 #190

Of course but you ask civilians nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #208

Thank the maker they don't. sarge43 Oct 2012 #220

And an extra helping of crazy nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #224

And often confirming that there is no such thing as unutterable nonsense. Bless their hearts. n/t sarge43 Oct 2012 #227

But at some point... Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #333

How many people do you know in the military? nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #335

Lots and lots and lots. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #338

And fail, we do have a draft, it's called an economic draft. nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #340

Of course I do not fault people with no choices. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #342

Yup I am sure private Johnson nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #344

You don't have to be an expert in history. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #349

Bay of pigs nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #352

Yes, I know that - 70 YEARS OF ANCIENT HISTORY. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #366

Your "we" doesn't include these guys, I guarantee. It doesn't even include MOST Veterans. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2012 #264

Of course not, my comments are the disconnect from the reality of how our gov't treats individual Lionessa Oct 2012 #283

Except that in this thread, you are the one treating past and current vets "like shit".... PavePusher Oct 2012 #291

I agree. The masses get all teary-eyed about soldiers standing in the rain... Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #330

Thank you for fully understanding my point. It's so hard to get the point across Lionessa Oct 2012 #337

Kippling said it well... Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #339

It is not a zero-sum game, Lionessa. MineralMan Oct 2012 #119

One does not exclude the other sarisataka Oct 2012 #166

Do you really think we are unable to walk and chew gum at the same time? PavePusher Oct 2012 #292

When I see so many here stumbling while obviously chewing on something, then yes. Lionessa Oct 2012 #343

You are making assumptions based on facts not in evidence. PavePusher Oct 2012 #359

Actually many are putting heads in sand when idolizing such "honoring" unrepresentative regalia. Lionessa Oct 2012 #375

How is getting rid of a couple of measly guards going to solve our veterans' mess? kestrel91316 Oct 2012 #64

Please read up on what they are doing. blackspade Oct 2012 #100

Oh just stop it nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #113

Absolutely true, but to mention the military aspect is taboo, as this thread proves. Lionessa Oct 2012 #242

The problem is not a pfc walking post nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #248

I never said it was. You're entirely misunderstanding my point. Lionessa Oct 2012 #250

Whatever nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #252

"I cannot fathom any other way to put it" PavePusher Oct 2012 #293

Yet this is one example of our government honoring its debt to those who served pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #310

You have to be the best of the best to get into the Army's Old Guard slackmaster Oct 2012 #32

what courage johnt_1956_55 Oct 2012 #33

This pic gets posted during every severe storm Kindly Refrain Oct 2012 #36

Very moving. Thanks for sharing. Happyhippychick Oct 2012 #42

All of the posts ridiculing this ceremony hogwyld Oct 2012 #43

Again, where in the US Constitution does it say Kindly Refrain Oct 2012 #49

You know, it is possible to make a point here on DU without being a dick about it. eggplant Oct 2012 #129

Someone "alerted" on H2O Man Oct 2012 #183

Where in the DU terms of service does it say that ridiculing soldiers is expected? lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #142

Every member of the armed forces swears or affirms to preserve, protect and defend the constitution. sarge43 Oct 2012 #221

Thanks for the correction. n/t lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #233

Considering that the post H2O Man Oct 2012 #188

It doesn't in the Constitution glacierbay Oct 2012 #266

Ya know, not everything is in the Constitution.... PavePusher Oct 2012 #294

I didn't serve ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #114

Not a veteran, but I agree 1000% lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #139

Look, I know it is important to honor those who made sacrifices Taverner Oct 2012 #48

The attitudes in this thread is why our side is accused of hating soldiers. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #52

I agree txdemsftw Oct 2012 #54

I can... Lightbulb_on Oct 2012 #94

Disgusting. I hope this thread gets locked, it makes me so ill. zonkers Oct 2012 #67

Some have to exhibit their ultra-liberal street cred... SidDithers Oct 2012 #75

More like "ultra clueless." MADem Oct 2012 #105

Sid, that ain't ultra-liberal street cred. That's disgusting behaivor Autumn Oct 2012 #230

Not really. I just think they should not be out there in a hurricane treestar Oct 2012 #126

It's not about graffiti. PavePusher Oct 2012 #296

Yup. n/t lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #143

Quite a few, usually older, soldiers hold those very exact opinions. redgreenandblue Oct 2012 #312

No, that's not true pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #313

Some see it as you do. redgreenandblue Oct 2012 #316

Regardless of differing political views, I will guarantee you... pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #317

In such a picture one sees what one wants to see. redgreenandblue Oct 2012 #319

"(C)eremonies for those who accepted shaming and jail time for resisting the draft"? pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #325

I commend your efforts to educate kids about war. redgreenandblue Oct 2012 #348

I'll spell it out for you: we VN vets had the utmost respect for that draft-dodging teacher pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #368

You know, if I was living in the US, I'd might just take that offer. redgreenandblue Oct 2012 #369

You'll miss a good one here pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #371

I think I'll pass this on to my dad. redgreenandblue Oct 2012 #387

Very telling. Marinedem Oct 2012 #59

As an American Kindly Refrain Oct 2012 #71

Yeah Marinedem Oct 2012 #78

I'm not droning civilians in Pakistan Kindly Refrain Oct 2012 #88

No. Marinedem Oct 2012 #95

ya pay any taxes? iamthebandfanman Oct 2012 #287

"moral high ground"? PavePusher Oct 2012 #298

And in the meantime, what will you be up to? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #137

Yes, iamthebandfanman Oct 2012 #286

I'll go back and undo all the humanitarian relief I've participated in... PavePusher Oct 2012 #297

Man, after reading a few of your posts, you sure don't sound like a Proud American ChillZilla Oct 2012 #389

^^^ THIS ^^^ WilliamPitt Oct 2012 #79

The anti-war Will Pitt speaks out. Kindly Refrain Oct 2012 #84

Yep WilliamPitt Oct 2012 #91

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #96

Agreed. WheelWalker Oct 2012 #236

Perfect. WilliamPitt Oct 2012 #256

Being anti-war is the most pro-military stance one can take. baldguy Oct 2012 #254

I am a military veteran and I am anti-war Skittles Oct 2012 #268

The poster is no longer with us pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #271

good Skittles Oct 2012 #277

Right. H2O Man Oct 2012 #200

Thank you. speedoo Oct 2012 #159

Yeah, a number of posters decided to dress as soldier-spitting stereotypes Union Scribe Oct 2012 #306

I'm not allowed to offer them a cup of tea? redgreenandblue Oct 2012 #308

When they're off duty, of course. They probably would prefer coffee. sarge43 Oct 2012 #388

snort tavernier Oct 2012 #61

I don't think those are real guards. randome Oct 2012 #62

It's a nice tradition. TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #68

In 2020 We are gonna learn that it was Hoffa under there the whole time. #JokesOnUs bigregg4838 Oct 2012 #72

This picture is from September 18, 2012 not today. SweetieD Oct 2012 #77

Thanks for being on the ball. ReasonableToo Oct 2012 #106

Buzz Feed has apologized for posting old photo Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2012 #125

Yea thanks! ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 #203

Beautiful. MadrasT Oct 2012 #80

Gotta admit.... MynameisBlarney Oct 2012 #83

Don't worry about them. Marinedem Oct 2012 #86

When all else fails, open the door in the back of the tomb and climb in! randome Oct 2012 #104

Good to know, thanks. MynameisBlarney Oct 2012 #322

Well, it does beat getting shot at. mnhtnbb Oct 2012 #85

Impressive. nt bluestate10 Oct 2012 #87

Too Bad! thelarge Oct 2012 #98

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #109

Which one was I? Recursion Oct 2012 #117

I didn't think a sarcasm tag was necessary. Throd Oct 2012 #118

D'oh. Sorry Recursion Oct 2012 #123

You were wrong. Prior to reading your post #118, the response I had in mind to you would have ... 11 Bravo Oct 2012 #130

It was necessary. There are people in this thread posting MineralMan Oct 2012 #144

My dad lied about his age so that he could enlist in the Navy in 1934 at 15 to get out of poverty slackmaster Oct 2012 #121

Your post is bullshit. Plain and simple. MineralMan Oct 2012 #127

Throd's post is an meant as an example of "Things I learned on DU..." sarcasm slackmaster Oct 2012 #131

In a thread where others are also posting ignorant nonsense MineralMan Oct 2012 #147

Wow.....you assume a lot of things... rppper Oct 2012 #146

A hurricane is nothing compared to combat. Being buffeted by rain and wind, a force of nature, is a freshwest Oct 2012 #120

Thank you for saying cliffordu Oct 2012 #182

You're welcome, cliffordu. Let's support each other in all that is good. freshwest Oct 2012 #222

Yep. Lets. cliffordu Oct 2012 #241

wow. fishwax Oct 2012 #245

Thanks for your post, too. We're all at different places, let's seek the best always. freshwest Oct 2012 #251

Well said! rppper Oct 2012 #265

If we love life, respect it. That's what they're doing. freshwest Oct 2012 #269

Wow. That was stunning. Thank you very, very much for saying that. n/t PavePusher Oct 2012 #299

Since I was an early critic on this thread I want to say I utterly respect the tomb and symbolism. nolabear Oct 2012 #132

This obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #193

way too many people confuse nationalism for patriotism nt hockeynut57 Oct 2012 #135

I think this is one of the ultimate examples of the latter. n/t lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #145

Agreed. ReasonableToo Oct 2012 #156

Interesting how this society Pharaoh Oct 2012 #140

I agree obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #196

You're missing the point by 180° n/t lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #232

its an older pic (Sept '12) AlecBGreen Oct 2012 #141

This is not a recent photo obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #167

recent pic upi402 Oct 2012 #170

Thanks..... ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 #205

Why anyone would have a problem with this is beyond me. npk Oct 2012 #172

Respect...This is what America is all about! Rocky2007 Oct 2012 #175

This is a symbol of the honor and respect due to those Americans who have fallen in battle and .... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #181

THANK YOU...to you... ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 #235

Just so everyone knows, there's no hurricane force winds in the DC metro area just yet Hippo_Tron Oct 2012 #186

Awesome picture! underoath Oct 2012 #240

I don't care if the pic's debunked. It still reminds me of something else to be grateful for. Bucky Oct 2012 #247

i wonder what is the source of the photo Enrique Oct 2012 #249

As been pointed out several times, guards are posted at the Tomb 24/7/365. sarge43 Oct 2012 #255

i never doubted it was real Enrique Oct 2012 #259

I sit corrected. n/t sarge43 Oct 2012 #260

Ok, need a tissue. nt oxymoron Oct 2012 #273

:) Fire Walk With Me Oct 2012 #295

Inspiring davidthegnome Oct 2012 #301

I can't believe some of the disrespectful crap I have seen posted on this thread. 4bucksagallon Oct 2012 #302

It's simple. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #336

Some people here have let cynicism get the better of them. Zynx Oct 2012 #315

Beautiful image, says a lot to me. era veteran Oct 2012 #318

My sons best friend from high school serves in that guard. Wonderful young man and... ourbluenation Oct 2012 #326

Wish those guys could at least cover their ears... poor fellas. Flaxbee Oct 2012 #360

wonderful photo. kick back to the top. Liberal_in_LA Oct 2012 #385