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Caliman73

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30. Bible also says this...

Thu Apr 21, 2022, 11:44 AM

Apr 2022

“If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple."

and this...

“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person's enemies will be those of his own household. Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And whoever does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. ..."

It isn't all love and happiness, even the New Testament.

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This says it all right here, folks. [View all] kpete Apr 2022 OP

Exactly. niyad Apr 2022 #1

Or at least nothing to do with Jesus Geechie Apr 2022 #2

well christians, followers of christ (jesus christ) .... w0nderer Apr 2022 #27

You would think! But Geechie Apr 2022 #32

We have to stop calling them Christian. They are not Christian. They use the term as a themaguffin Apr 2022 #3

If they aren't Christians, what are they, exactly? Mariana Apr 2022 #7

I'm sure someone will correct me but Pharisees or Sadducees might be accurate. Probatim Apr 2022 #8

Has anyone said that the Pharisees and the Sadducees weren't Jewish? Mariana Apr 2022 #14

Maybe that was the poster's point - they aren't Christians because they're doing it wrong. Probatim Apr 2022 #16

If they aren't Christians, they must be something else. Mariana Apr 2022 #18

Or they're self-satisfied pricks who lord their religiosity over lesser folks. Probatim Apr 2022 #19

History has very clearly shown us Mariana Apr 2022 #23

Absolutely right wryter2000 Apr 2022 #34

Yes. I call them::: Political Christians rather than Christians of faith. keithbvadu2 Apr 2022 #42

I like this labeling. ShazzieB Apr 2022 #49

The only entry requirement for being a Christian is identifying as a Christian Major Nikon Apr 2022 #12

They've hijacked the label.. Permanut Apr 2022 #15

I think in most cases, their faith is genuine. Mariana Apr 2022 #17

Their belief in themselves as righteous is true mnhtnbb Apr 2022 #39

Jesus gave a simple test to know those who followed him. summer_in_TX Apr 2022 #53

Assholes whose beliefs are counter to the Gospel. themaguffin Apr 2022 #24

SELFISH cynical_idealist Apr 2022 #25

How about Marc Maron's description? wryter2000 Apr 2022 #35

How about..? Whatthe_Firetruck Apr 2022 #51

Is there any time in history when this wasn't the case? Major Nikon Apr 2022 #10

For most of human history, wnylib Apr 2022 #29

Politics and religion use each other to gain power and wealth. keithbvadu2 Apr 2022 #40

It was Jewish self-governance that led to the execution of Jesus Major Nikon Apr 2022 #54

I would have responded to your post sooner, but wnylib Apr 2022 #59

It sounds as if you are reading more into statements so you can refute them Major Nikon Apr 2022 #60

The role of Paul as the founder of wnylib Apr 2022 #61

I didn't say it was biased, although it almost certainly is to some degree Major Nikon Apr 2022 #62

Sigh. Nearly every point you bring up wnylib May 2022 #63

I don't have a negative view of the series Major Nikon May 2022 #65

Regarding your view that wnylib May 2022 #64

No true Scotsman fallacy. Caliman73 Apr 2022 #28

That's my point, they aren't practicing the faith. They are counter to the Gospel. themaguffin Apr 2022 #31

How of "no true Scotsman" getting invoked is itself the fallacy fallacy? ck4829 Apr 2022 #56

I just call them A Morpheus Felinae Apr 2022 #38

Christian is as Christian does; there is no test that all Christian denominations agree to NullTuples Apr 2022 #43

It certainly says something Sherman A1 Apr 2022 #4

Sometimes a pithy statement says more than a newspaper's editorial page. Perfect! erronis Apr 2022 #5

You would think if they are banning books for profanity, etc, the bible Emile Apr 2022 #6

truth cannot be denied llashram Apr 2022 #9

But it can be punished. keithbvadu2 Apr 2022 #41

Indeed. Hypocrites Roc2020 Apr 2022 #11

It sure does! smh liberalla Apr 2022 #13

Bible shmible. twodogsbarking Apr 2022 #20

K&R ck4829 Apr 2022 #21

Love your neighbor. Marcuse Apr 2022 #22

Bible also says this... Caliman73 Apr 2022 #30

mic drop of the week at least! n/t w0nderer Apr 2022 #26

They love smiting and wrath IronLionZion Apr 2022 #33

K & R & Retweeted! SunSeeker Apr 2022 #36

There's no better way to say it. sarchasm Apr 2022 #37

Aunt Crabby nails it again. TomSlick Apr 2022 #44

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2022 #52

The 'good' thing about the Bible Aussie105 Apr 2022 #45

K&r Demovictory9 Apr 2022 #46

K&R - nt Ohio Joe Apr 2022 #47

HELL YEAH!!! calimary Apr 2022 #48

Thank You for Posting & Sharing With Us...K and R Stuart G Apr 2022 #50

k&r n/t lordsummerisle Apr 2022 #55

Bravo! (nt) Paladin Apr 2022 #57

And then there's the Catholic version. XacerbatedDem Apr 2022 #58