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Swede Atlanta

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95. This is pervasive in our society today....

Mon Oct 29, 2012, 04:28 PM

Oct 2012

People do not respect others, the property of others or the interests of others....

It is a symptom of a "me, me, me" mentality that the GOP promotes. It is that me and only me counts. Everyone else is on their own. I don't care if I trample on their property, leave my soda or coffee cup on their lawn, drop my lit cigarette, yell out "liar" to the President of the country, etc.

These people don't care. They think it is all about them, that there is no longer an "us".

They disgrace and disrespect the tomb of the unknown soldier but that isn't anything.

We lack a sense of civil responsibility and civil discourse in this nation. The wealthy have snowed at least 40+ percent of the people that they should be made richer while their supporters suffer. The other half are divided between themselves.

Unless we can return to a society of mutual respect and civility our best days are indeed behind us.

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I'm a veteran, and a pacifist. And I'm a little disgusted by the disrespect voiced toward the Tomb [View all] Aristus Oct 2012 OP

+1 ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #1

+2 Norbert Oct 2012 #116

+3 840high Oct 2012 #152

Even in a hurricane... FourScore Oct 2012 #174

Actually, sulphurdunn Oct 2012 #176

That's a very powerful picture NICO9000 Oct 2012 #180

A powerful image SemperEadem Oct 2012 #182

Reminds me of the monsoons in Vietnam pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #183

Good pic, but that pic is from September, not from Sandy and not from any hurricane tarheelsunc Oct 2012 #184

It's revolting, and frankly, it makes DU suck. nt msanthrope Oct 2012 #2

I agree BainsBane Oct 2012 #53

Take heart in how many are showing up to call out the disrespect. nt msanthrope Oct 2012 #73

+1,000,000 cbrer Oct 2012 #86

given that this monument is the only grave that some families ever had for their roguevalley Oct 2012 #132

I agree. hogwyld Oct 2012 #3

Yes, but all Americans should respect those who have served BainsBane Oct 2012 #47

People on this board are now critical of the dead? . . . Journeyman Oct 2012 #4

Yeah, there are at least 2 threads in GD that are openly contemptuous of the Tomb, Aristus Oct 2012 #11

Links, please? speedoo Oct 2012 #24

^^^ +1,000 nt DonViejo Oct 2012 #28

Here's one: Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2012 #38

Well, it's the symbolism. It's about THE SACRIFICE. I'm as anti-war as they come. But this is calimary Oct 2012 #55

Yes. Generals who've served in actual combat know war is hell & are very reluctant to commit troops. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2012 #84

With all due respect... PavePusher Oct 2012 #166

Thanks. Some of those posts are simply disgusting. speedoo Oct 2012 #58

I'm a Vietnam Vet also glacierbay Oct 2012 #133

+100 n/t whathehell Oct 2012 #140

I saw one of those threads, kinda wish I hadn't. Ugh. (nt) Posteritatis Oct 2012 #92

I may have gone farther afield than some think necessary, but I hope you didn't find mine offensive: freshwest Oct 2012 #119

There is a group on DU that hates anything associated with the military. bluestate10 Oct 2012 #15

Sadly, there are a number of people on DU who are bitter and hateful......... George II Oct 2012 #148

Good Post! txdemsftw Oct 2012 #5

Thank you for saying this. Chan790 Oct 2012 #6

Wish I could rec this LP2K12 Oct 2012 #7

I missed it, thank goodness. How can anybody not be moved my the Tomb sinkingfeeling Oct 2012 #8

Respect dipsydoodle Oct 2012 #9

I share your feelings. Laying there is a man that helped save humanity from a barbarian. bluestate10 Oct 2012 #10

It's awfully easy for those who are not and will never be in harm's way MineralMan Oct 2012 #12

I have nothing against those who guard it, but I think it's folly to lionize cali Oct 2012 #13

Clearly. Robb Oct 2012 #17

. . . Journeyman Oct 2012 #22

Consciously conflating admiration and "folly" seems like... well, folly. LanternWaste Oct 2012 #32

You've made that abundantly clear. More's the pity. 11 Bravo Oct 2012 #35

Thanks, 11 Bang. Aristus Oct 2012 #44

Hoo-ahh, brother! 11 Bravo Oct 2012 #52

Well put. I've been watching all of this play out. And finally, the perfect response. Thank you. nt ncgrits Oct 2012 #90

+1,000,000! nt MADem Oct 2012 #159

Sometimes silence truly is golden. likesmountains 52 Oct 2012 #42

No---I think this is one topic that you should shut the fuck up. trumad Oct 2012 #59

Hm. You again. You sure you're a liberal? kestrel91316 Oct 2012 #62

Right? Texasgal Oct 2012 #70

It's times like this I like to remember the Abraham Lincoln quote mythology Oct 2012 #100

you're right, less than 1% of us ever wear a uniform, and it is, in fact, so you can be an ass pasto76 Oct 2012 #105

Ditto, bro. TahitiNut Oct 2012 #127

It's not lionizing Confusious Oct 2012 #136

How very tolerant of you, lol. As to your next point, how about whathehell Oct 2012 #139

I think the fact that it's guarded continuously, no matter what renate Oct 2012 #14

I wouldn't if somebody really risked getting hurt. . . . BigDemVoter Oct 2012 #41

Their contingency plan calls for them to be brought indoors if their safety is in jeopardy pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #66

Thanks, my husband and I were wondering about this, he was concerned SaveAmerica Oct 2012 #147

AMEN appleannie1 Oct 2012 #16

Every time I go visit my father and mother's grave at Arlington I alway stop at the southernyankeebelle Oct 2012 #18

You know, I meant no disrespect to the dead or those who guard it. Skidmore Oct 2012 #19

Service to those in danger will not go undone just because a tiny cadre of men perform a service Aristus Oct 2012 #21

This. mac56 Oct 2012 #33

Thank you for the information. Skidmore Oct 2012 #34

I share your irritation with such people. Aristus Oct 2012 #50

What do you think will go undone due to the absence of one company? LanternWaste Oct 2012 #39

I commented on one of those posts.... CherokeeDem Oct 2012 #20

Oh dear. I commented that those guards should get inside but meant no disrespect. nolabear Oct 2012 #23

It wasn't you, nolabear. Aristus Oct 2012 #25

Please cite an example where somebody Kindly Refrain Oct 2012 #63

Reply #74 by stopbush, for starters. There are more... Aristus Oct 2012 #68

That wasn't contempt Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #170

You called them brainwashed TruthAnalyzed Oct 2012 #72

Yup, I think there are a lot of brainwashed people in this country. Kindly Refrain Oct 2012 #78

So, calling them brainwashed... TruthAnalyzed Oct 2012 #87

LOL!! Wait Wut Oct 2012 #51

They do, don't worry Hippo_Tron Oct 2012 #110

If they were granted the privilage of getting inside... Norbert Oct 2012 #128

Thank You. I was getting sick of all the rude, snide and stupid comments dballance Oct 2012 #26

My only 2 cents is the safety of those guarding it LynneSin Oct 2012 #27

There are plans to deal with severe weather. Recovered Repug Oct 2012 #56

They won't be put at risk sarge43 Oct 2012 #126

Depends on what is considered disrespectful treestar Oct 2012 #29

By my understanding there are indeed such limits. eqfan592 Oct 2012 #65

People who belittle gestures of honor and respect TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #30

Yep. Exactly. cliffordu Oct 2012 #71

Well said. Lisa D Oct 2012 #104

Thank you. nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #31

Agree. I am wondering if those poor guys will be standing out there when the storm is at its worst jwirr Oct 2012 #36

Agreed. CheeseHead316 Oct 2012 #37

We may not agree with those who decide to take us to war liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #40

k&r Supersedeas Oct 2012 #43

Amen!!!! skeewee08 Oct 2012 #45

Thank you. Lochloosa Oct 2012 #46

Agree 1,000%. It speaks of people who have no real world life experience. progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #48

Agree 100% Wait Wut Oct 2012 #49

+1 freshwest Oct 2012 #123

Thank you for your clear thinking, my dear Aristus... CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2012 #54

No mission too difficult The Wizard Oct 2012 #57

From one VN Vet to another glacierbay Oct 2012 #143

We, this band of brothers, The Wizard Oct 2012 #173

Thank you. Sad to see we have our own set of deranged haters here on the left. kestrel91316 Oct 2012 #60

As I said in another thread, MADem Oct 2012 #61

I still have the flag that covered the casket of my grandfather..... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #64

. Kurovski Oct 2012 #67

K&R garthranzz Oct 2012 #69

I'm with you man! sdfernando Oct 2012 #74

Everyone has a right to their humbled_opinion Oct 2012 #75

Recommended. H2O Man Oct 2012 #76

Absolutely. still_one Oct 2012 #77

A great big old K&R for this post Homer Wells Oct 2012 #79

Recommended pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #80

This vet stands with you. n/t cynatnite Oct 2012 #81

yep you are 100 percent correct k and r dembotoz Oct 2012 #82

It was only a couple of posts in a mostly respectful thread JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2012 #83

I saw the post earlier Aerows Oct 2012 #85

People on this board Aerows Oct 2012 #88

A thousand times yes! buckyblue Oct 2012 #135

i'm with you. barbtries Oct 2012 #89

We were not able to stop the wars, so let us at least honor and mourn those who died. meti57b Oct 2012 #91

Thank you for saying this and you are 100% right - lynne Oct 2012 #93

Honestly, the vitriol is very disturbing. n/t eggplant Oct 2012 #94

This is pervasive in our society today.... Swede Atlanta Oct 2012 #95

+1 freshwest Oct 2012 #125

To all the veterans Clouseau2 Oct 2012 #96

I honor the intent, the heart of those who want to serve duhneece Oct 2012 #97

Respect The Vets elbloggoZY27 Oct 2012 #98

If only someone had included Ann Coulter and the "c" word Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #99

I respect them Gore1FL Oct 2012 #101

Really not an issue. Daemonaquila Oct 2012 #151

I applaud them. Gore1FL Oct 2012 #188

The usual DU idiots that think they're much more intelligent and morally superior Gman Oct 2012 #102

i disagree totally with this thread Enrique Oct 2012 #103

+1 quinnox Oct 2012 #129

If I didn't believe in sharing my country with ingrates & dumbasses... Bucky Oct 2012 #106

I thought it was about the fact a FACT that the picture is from last month underpants Oct 2012 #107

dulce bellum inexpertis queentonic Oct 2012 #108

Welcome to DU, queentonic! Aristus Oct 2012 #109

Thank you. great white snark Oct 2012 #111

Part of it is people won't freakin Google, they don't actually stand there in hurricane force winds Hippo_Tron Oct 2012 #112

AGREED Skittles Oct 2012 #113

I'm right there with you, Brother nt MrScorpio Oct 2012 #114

100% agreement grantcart Oct 2012 #115

Well said and I couldn't agree more! n/t Greywing Oct 2012 #117

The number of rec's on this OP Curmudgeoness Oct 2012 #118

Agreed. NYC_SKP Oct 2012 #121

knr-nt NYC_SKP Oct 2012 #120

This Vet stands with you! mailman82 Oct 2012 #122

Strongly agree. Moondog Oct 2012 #124

Ever wonder why there aren't national tombs for artists? If there were, they'd deserver veneration TransitJohn Oct 2012 #130

Yet buckyblue Oct 2012 #138

LOL TransitJohn Oct 2012 #155

Quiet respect buckyblue Oct 2012 #171

Thats a stretch. iamthebandfanman Oct 2012 #142

This isn't a fetish. Aristus Oct 2012 #146

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #161

Glad I read this thread first. JoeyT Oct 2012 #131

Bravo Stinky The Clown Oct 2012 #134

Yes, me too. Trailrider1951 Oct 2012 #137

So dumb. iamthebandfanman Oct 2012 #141

+1 WooWooWoo Oct 2012 #144

Looking at the names of those who rec'd the OP, it's a very diverse group. Kaleva Oct 2012 #145

I wish we could stand with them, if only for a few minutes each IDoMath Oct 2012 #149

+1000 blackspade Oct 2012 #150

I disagree with those making those types of comments wholeheartedly,, benld74 Oct 2012 #153

Thanks for your service and well stated. n/t politicaljack78 Oct 2012 #154

Sometimes people's fervor for their ideology and their vision of the world clouds their judgment. bluesbassman Oct 2012 #156

Thanks, bluesbassman. Aristus Oct 2012 #157

The utmost respect. But respect is a rare commodity these days. bluesbassman Oct 2012 #160

Interesting part of our culture that requires respected dedication... Comrade_McKenzie Oct 2012 #158

Well said, sir, and respect to you. sibelian Oct 2012 #162

Loyalty and ritual can be taken to foolish extreme ErikJ Oct 2012 #163

The Tomb of the Unknowns: WWI, WWII, Korea and formerly Vietnam Ash_F Oct 2012 #164

Fuckin-A Recced Crabby Appleton Oct 2012 #165

K and R. Absolutely correct. nt MaeScott Oct 2012 #167

I didn't see the posts and would rather not davidpdx Oct 2012 #168

I read that crap under that great image era veteran Oct 2012 #169

only 98% of people reacted to the photo in the correct way. Enrique Oct 2012 #172

That was BS posted by a now-PPR'd DU intruder pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #186

+Google.... Aviation Pro Oct 2012 #175

Me too. I was outraged at whoever released that file photo trying to capitalize Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #177

THANK YOU WilliamPitt Oct 2012 #178

Thank you for saying this..... prairierose Oct 2012 #179

no one said anything hateful Enrique Oct 2012 #187

I am more disgusted by the disrespect shown to our living veterans... bvar22 Oct 2012 #181

As a vet and peacefreak, I agree, the tombs of the unknowns are about the other victims of .... marble falls Oct 2012 #185